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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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tonight uh is going to be sort of an

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exploration into uh

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some red flags and doubts

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and I'm happy to see that I'm not the

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only person raising red flags on this

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quote UFO whistleblower unquote story

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um and I was interested to see that some

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opinions of people that most people

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are also finding red flags with Mr

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for those unaware we will be discussing

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and uh

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talking about some recent comments that

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Mr Kevin Randall made on the Martin

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Willis show and interestingly I think

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that this interview and these comments

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thought it was so important that we

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would uh I'm gonna be playing you the

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clips and we will be talking about it

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well not the clips we will be going over

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what he said during this interview

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you know I'm getting attacked already

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for doing this today uh which is

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interesting to me because apparently

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some stupid people don't think that the

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opinion of someone who has investigated

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UFOs for what 30 years who's written

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over a hundred books many of them on

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actual UFO crash retrieval cases oh he

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his his opinion's not important

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and there's a reason that people are

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attacking me saying that and it's

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believe his opinions and comments uh

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raise some very serious doubts about the

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story of Mr Dave grush

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and I'm sorry if you don't like my

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opinions and and I'm sorry if you don't

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like Mr Randall's opinions however

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is it not relevant that a guy who has

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important that he is seeing some of the

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an incredible researcher author and

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historian really of UFO stories and

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casts some major doubt on this story I

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think it's extremely relevant I think

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specifically as well as other books on

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so to the people who are so angry

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uh that we're doing this tonight we're

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talking about what Mr Randall said all I

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can tell you is if you will put your

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and put those earplugs in no no Kevin

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course people in these nasty messages

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disparaging me disparaging Mr Randall

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and it's so stupid and so petty what

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petty and so ridiculous that some of

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seek media attention as a media

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personality as Dave grush did you are

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inviting scrutiny you are inviting

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people to ask questions about your story

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discourse and that my friends is all

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that we are doing here we are providing

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public discourse we are examining the

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past and someone has already accused me

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of lying because Mr Randall will not be

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here tonight so if you're here to see a

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live interview of Mr Randall I

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understand that you can click off go

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somewhere else

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wasn't my intention to mislead anybody

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that we will be covering what was said

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on Mr Martin Willis show by Kevin

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Randall Mr Randall has been a guest here

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on our show in the past I'm sure he will

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be a guest here in the future I didn't

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want to ask him to come here what was I

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supposed to do say you know all that

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stuff you already said on this other

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show can you come to my show and just

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say the same stuff again I didn't want

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so this weekend I will be reaching out

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we're going to ask them to all come here

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experts on UFO crash retrievals their

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opinion of Mr grush's story so

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the live chat as we do that uh but

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Sandra McDonald with kind generous 299

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Australian and thank you also for being

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a YouTube channel member thank you for

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your kindness generosity and support of

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the show it is much much appreciated uh

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of these guys all on one show it would

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be awesome and uh I for one have a an

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intense interest in UFO crash retrieval

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cases unfortunately many of them turn

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crash case many of these so-called UFO

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knowledge and experience of people who

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old evidence he'll change his opinion

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rest of my life he's able to as we all

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should be change his opinion and his

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that some of these people do when they

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get caught with the fake witness or fake

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admit it and they double down triple

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down they won't admit that they made a

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mistake Kevin Randall admits that he's

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made some mistakes and that makes him

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more human to me because we're all human

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ability to change his mind so we're

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information presented and using this

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video for educational purposes all of

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these things make this a work of fair

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use uh so let's get into it friends and

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and I want to thank the user by the way

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who sent me this interview I I would

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probably have missed this but somebody

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sent it to me with timestamps they

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didn't want to be named but they know

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who they are so thank you very much I'm

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glad that I was able to get this because

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I think it is an important I think that

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this guy being such an expert on UFO

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crash retrievals and the things that

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he's saying in this interview raising

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these red flags and casting what I think

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is casting major doubt on Dave grush's

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story I think this is important I didn't

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want it to be lost in The Ether of all

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the content on the internet so uh happy

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to bring it to you this is Kevin

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Randall's whistleblower opinion

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and remember that Mr Randall has been a

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UFO investigator for many many years and

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he has sort of specialized in UFO crash

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retrievals not just Roswell he has

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investigated many others so-called UFO

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crash retrievals so interesting to see I

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was incredibly interested to see what he

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had to say let's get into it friends

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wow interesting all right well let's go

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to it what do you think about the whole

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David grush

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whistleblower situation

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I'm I'm very worried about it

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um I actually talked to Jerry Clark

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about that and talked to him I emailed

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we emailed back and forth about it he

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said we need to be cautious because we

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don't have all the information and we

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shouldn't be really

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drawing solid conclusions prior before

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prior to getting all the information but

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there are some red flags that we need to

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be aware of yeah uh I keep hearing the

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turn red flags I uh did a piece you

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might find interesting on our channel

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here 10 red flags about David grush's

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story Stephen Green Street did a piece

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he he concentrated on the three most

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important red flags about David Crush

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now we've got Kevin Randall talking

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about red flags uh yeah there's a lot of

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red flags Rush

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said that um he won't reveal his sources

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who told him this stuff

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he says he has documentation but they're

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still classified and he can't let them

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out excuse me you've already blown the

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whistle on this you know letting out the

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documents is not going to harm you any

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more then it's you're already harmed no

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is that so so he can take classified

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documents now and release him and he

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can't get he supposedly has classified

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documents I don't know why he would have

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them if they and if they were once

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classified and been Declassified well

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then there's really no problem

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yeah and there seems to be an awful lot

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of confusion about the documents their

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classification status whether they are

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still classified whether they are

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um whether he is able to release them or

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not but I for one find it incredibly

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convenient well I've got a lot of

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got all these documents we've got all

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this proof of what I'm saying but I

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can't show it to any of you I showed it

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to Congress

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um okay right but if they're still

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classified and he has

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possession of them then then he's in

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violation of any number of regulations

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um yeah and that's another point is he

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allowed to be in possession of

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classified documents after he is no

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longer an employee of the United States

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government

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wouldn't he lose his right to possess

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classified documents

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that's another red flag to me how how is

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he able to be in possession of

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classified documents

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um this is problematic but that's that's

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my understanding and that's what he said

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well they have these documents I haven't

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been given permission to release them

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oh I didn't hear him actually say that

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phrase he said that during the long

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interview uh he has made that comment

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elsewhere I think he's talked about how

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he is I agree in permission to release

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the documents but we don't but but the

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point simply is he hasn't released them

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well here's here's something here a

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little by both definitely

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and just to make the point if he

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was under oath and he was lying he would

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his butt would be in big trouble yeah

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and here's another Miss total

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misconception that people are taking as

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proof that he's telling the truth I've

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heard a hundred people tell me

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he testified before Congress and if he

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was lying he would get arrested and he

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hasn't been arrested so he must have

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told them the truth

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uh no not at all and Mr Randall explains

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this as I have but better

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if he truly believed what he said and it

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was untrue

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that he's not lying he's really

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caring misinformation to its source I

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mean there's a fine line you walk there

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between lying and repeating information

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you believe to be the truth yeah and I

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agree with him

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uh you can't be charged with perjury

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unless there is a willful intent to

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deceive

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so if Mr grush was given information by

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oh I don't know Eric Davis Gary Nolan

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Lou Elizondo and Hal putoff for example

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and that information turned out to be

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false information kind of like that

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hoaxed 1930s case uh that's completely

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fake uh he can't be charged with perjury

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because he's simply repeating thinks

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that he was told that he believed to be

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accurate

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believes in stuff and I get the

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impression he truly believes what he's

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saying there

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I'm just worried about the sources of

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that information

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I I'm just thinking and and I'm I'm

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understanding what you're saying it was

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one of the questions I asked Ralph

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Blumenthal when I had him on

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um and it just seems like it would be

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have to be so involved with so many

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people

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apparently not that I know for sure but

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it would just seem like it would be such

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an elaborate thing and why would they

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why would they do that well there's your

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question

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why would who do what why would why

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would they be feeding him disinformation

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I don't think no I don't think it's

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disinformation what I understand

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and please this is my understanding and

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I've I haven't been really called out on

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any of this yet

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yeah and this is where it gets a little

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confusing he would be talking to friends

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and they would tell him stuff about

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these sorts of things the problem I have

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with

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materials especially highly classified

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top secret materials

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you do not discuss it with those who are

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not cleared to hear it and you must

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assume that everybody around you

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um who's not involved in this particular

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project is not cleared to hear it yeah

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and by the way I'm all for government

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transparency but it is true if I for

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example was involved in a secret project

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uh and

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um I'm not allowed to speak about it to

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anyone full stop

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uh unless I am a 100 certain that

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they're cleared

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to uh have access to the information

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regarding that program now uh if Ivana

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Rios pardon me is asking a very

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important question if they're all lying

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why do you think there would be

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uh why do you think would be the same

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reason for all this operation with

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Elizondo Mellon and all of that people

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involved

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well it gets very complicated but what I

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will say is that Elizondo and melon have

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literally uh tried to profit from things

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before that aren't what they said it was

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remember those three videos in ttsa you

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know we were essentially told this is

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disclosure these are Big these things

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defy the laws of physics this thing's

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you know like the go fast video it was

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going 40 miles an hour it wasn't going

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at nearly Mach 1 as they claimed

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um I think that there may be a great

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deal of True Believers who truly believe

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that things are aliens when they're not

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and there is a prosaic explanation and

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the people that may be feeding this Mr

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grush information May simply believe it

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themselves

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and be misinformed and you know other

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people have talked about the possibility

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that perhaps some people have uh had

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access to some kind of Crash retrieval

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programs they didn't understand the

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materials involved that were recovered

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that may be Chinese or Russian or Indian

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or some adversarial countries technology

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that we're just not informed of and they

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might have thought this is alien

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technology and uh you know people talk

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rumors get spread and

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it may simply be a lot of

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misidentification kind of like Lou

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Elizondo and melon misidentified those

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three videos as something extraordinary

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when they were not so I don't know why

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they're bringing him these Tales unless

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it's unclassified material that if it's

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unclassified material then it's not that

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important because we have an awful lot

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of unclassified material out there

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floating around about UFO crashes and

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mj-12 and documentation and all kinds of

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other things

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so I worry it's a good point Sandra I

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worry about the claim that

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um they would bring him or he would see

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these things that are highly classified

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and yeah people make mistakes and people

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reveal classified material by mistake

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all the time

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periodically I know was it um

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McGeorge Bundy who was a high-ranking

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member of the Johnson Administration I

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believe John certainly revealed a code

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word to reporters he had a document in

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his hand with the code word on it you

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know I say top secret they would give

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the code word yeah things leaked by

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accident all the time so they realize

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what the code word was so inadvertently

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released the code word which was

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classified in in the know itself so that

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these sorts of mistakes are made but you

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don't generally yeah and and there's

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another issue here and that is

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that there's an awful lot of people that

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are saying like I I got told what the

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program names are but I can't tell you

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well

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even the name of a program if it's

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classified is by definition classified

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you know for example uh if I worked for

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you know secret project butt fluffer for

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the United States government I couldn't

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tell people the name of the program I'm

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working on is butt fluffer

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you can't do that

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there's an awful lot of people using

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these veils of secrecy I think to grift

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and say oh I'm in on the secrets I know

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the name of the programs great then drop

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them because it would be illegal for

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anybody even to tell you the name of the

558
00:27:44,350 --> 00:27:41,279
programs you know and I think that we're

559
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,360
going to see a review of classification

560
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:46,799
procedures throughout the entire United

561
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:48,900
States government because of all of this

562
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,080
stuff because of Elizondo uh and melon

563
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:54,240
apparently bending the rules and taking

564
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,400
videos that weren't cleared for public

565
00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:58,559
release out of the Pentagon

566
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,900
allegedly

567
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:03,600
um and because of grush and all of these

568
00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:05,820
other people saying that they're you

569
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:08,460
know or especially because of Corbell

570
00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:11,159
like if I don't understand what's going

571
00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:15,419
on with Korbel uh this uh still that

572
00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:17,400
we're releasing this still image that

573
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:19,559
we're releasing was part of a video that

574
00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:21,900
was from a classified briefing but it's

575
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,400
not classified

576
00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:25,919
it doesn't make any sense what some of

577
00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:27,659
these people are doing

578
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:30,120
from a perspective of National Security

579
00:28:36,529 --> 00:28:32,520
and classifications it just doesn't make

580
00:28:38,029 --> 00:28:36,539
any sense simply get into gossip with

581
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:38,039
people who are not clear to hear the

582
00:28:42,289 --> 00:28:40,200
information so I don't understand this

583
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:42,299
at all but he did say a couple of things

584
00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:43,860
in the long-form interview that was

585
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:46,200
interesting he talked about this 19

586
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:49,020
33 crash in Italy which I'd never heard

587
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:50,940
of I've been researching UFO crashes

588
00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:53,820
yeah literally decades magenta I believe

589
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:55,740
or something like that

590
00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:59,940
um but but uh that case was debunked by

591
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:03,120
Italian researchers two decades ago

592
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,840
and there you have it Mr Randall spent

593
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,820
some time after hearing about this

594
00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:10,980
program

595
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:13,140
excuse me after hearing about this

596
00:29:19,010 --> 00:29:16,440
so-called crash retrieval case in Italy

597
00:29:21,529 --> 00:29:19,020
and remember this is one of the provers

598
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:21,539
for Dave grush I would he Dave grosh

599
00:29:30,289 --> 00:29:26,120
said that he was briefed about this

600
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,299
1930s UFO crash retrieval case from

601
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:33,840
Italy well who's briefing him about a

602
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,020
debunked fake UFO case that was debunked

603
00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:39,840
20 years ago

604
00:29:45,889 --> 00:29:41,820
and

605
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:45,899
we are I am certain that Elizondo has

606
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:48,840
told other people Lou Elizondo has told

607
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:52,440
people about that fake case he just left

608
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,880
out the part where the case is

609
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,440
completely fake and even the original

610
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,320
researchers on the case declared it a

611
00:30:02,930 --> 00:29:59,840
hoax

612
00:30:05,149 --> 00:30:02,940
very problematic that Dave grush is

613
00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:05,159
saying that somebody in the United

614
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:07,140
States government briefed me on this

615
00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:10,620
Italian UFO crash from the 1930s and

616
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,419
it's a fake case

617
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:15,120
uh that's extremely problematic and a

618
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:17,340
huge red flag he's talking about this

619
00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:20,940
case from Italy in 1933 where

620
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:24,419
the fascist Mussolini recovered parts of

621
00:30:30,409 --> 00:30:27,659
a flying saucer or mostly intact saucer

622
00:30:33,769 --> 00:30:30,419
and he moved it to an Airfield brought

623
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:33,779
the pope into it Pope Pius this oh Bush

624
00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:38,100
12th but Pope Pius some number uh into

625
00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:40,860
it and the pope was worried about the

626
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:42,539
fastest having this information and

627
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,940
leaked it to the Americans

628
00:30:50,029 --> 00:30:47,279
and once the war was over we recovered

629
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:50,039
the the debris and there were documents

630
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:52,140
supposedly released in relation to this

631
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:55,320
good point is this

632
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:56,940
stuff

633
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:58,500
and and

634
00:31:05,690 --> 00:31:03,889
into the documentation and it's the same

635
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,700
thing we had with the MJ Daniels here

636
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,440
any of the sources they don't know what

637
00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:08,640
the sources are

638
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:11,580
the the claim sources an archive that

639
00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:12,720
supposedly released some of the

640
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,580
documents doesn't exist

641
00:31:18,649 --> 00:31:16,980
yeah and we just got all this I just got

642
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:18,659
all this information and last week and

643
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:21,600
I'm completing a uh posting for my blog

644
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:23,279
that outlines this but when we looked

645
00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:25,860
yeah so Mr Randall has a very popular

646
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:28,620
blog in the UFO world and he really deep

647
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:31,740
dive and investigates cases so he has

648
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:34,559
gathered all of the proof this this is

649
00:31:39,649 --> 00:31:36,779
also very very important

650
00:31:42,409 --> 00:31:39,659
Mr Randall has gathered all the

651
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,419
important proof that this so-called UFO

652
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:44,880
crash retrieval case in the 1930s is

653
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:47,220
completely fictitious it's fake it's a

654
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:50,220
hoax it's a made-up fake story

655
00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:52,860
and he'll be posting it on his blog

656
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:54,840
maybe I will reach out to him and ask

657
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:56,460
him to come and just explain that case

658
00:32:02,630 --> 00:31:59,760
to us this is very important

659
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:02,640
why is a so-called whistleblower who who

660
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:05,820
has access to real information talking

661
00:32:12,529 --> 00:32:09,000
about fake debunked completely fake 100

662
00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:12,539
percent fake UFO cases from the 1930s

663
00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:16,140
that were investigated and debunked as

664
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:19,940
fake 20 years ago there was

665
00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:22,919
documents associated with this case that

666
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:24,840
turned out to be fake they were supposed

667
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:28,980
to be released from some Italian archive

668
00:32:35,409 --> 00:32:32,399
that doesn't exist it's a made-up the

669
00:32:37,970 --> 00:32:35,419
whole story is made up why is Dave grush

670
00:32:39,950 --> 00:32:37,980
purposefully or

671
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:39,960
perhaps unintentionally I shouldn't say

672
00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:42,960
purposefully language is important

673
00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:45,659
why is Dave grush intentionally or

674
00:32:51,529 --> 00:32:48,120
unintentionally including completely

675
00:32:54,409 --> 00:32:51,539
fake hoax cases when he talks about

676
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:54,419
grass retrievals being real

677
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:57,840
this is a huge red flag huge red flag

678
00:33:02,090 --> 00:33:00,480
that he's talking about a case and being

679
00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:02,100
briefed on a Case by government

680
00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:04,500
officials why would government officials

681
00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:06,840
be briefing him on a completely

682
00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:09,299
fictitious case based on completely

683
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:11,480
fictitious false

684
00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:15,419
fraud created documents that was the

685
00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:17,159
only proof of the case some documents

686
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:20,100
that turned out to be fake so

687
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:23,760
a huge huge red flag here and uh I'm

688
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,260
looking forward to Mr Randall's

689
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:27,480
breakdown on that case I considered

690
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:29,340
trying to do it myself I'm sure he has

691
00:33:34,009 --> 00:33:32,279
better contacts uh and and will do a

692
00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:34,019
much better job than I look at that sort

693
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,120
of information so

694
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,360
I would assume I would believe that the

695
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:41,580
people who were talking about this 1933

696
00:33:46,909 --> 00:33:43,320
crash

697
00:33:49,789 --> 00:33:46,919
in the hearing in the range of

698
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:49,799
Crush would have known

699
00:33:54,889 --> 00:33:52,740
all aspects of it I think Timothy good

700
00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:54,899
talked about it in one of his books

701
00:34:01,610 --> 00:33:56,940
um

702
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:01,620
published 20 years ago and I have access

703
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:03,000
to the Articles they're published in

704
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:04,980
Italian and just

705
00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:06,179
Friday

706
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,720
yeah Mr Randall got the uh got the

707
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:11,760
original articles on the case translated

708
00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:14,520
to English so he could research and and

709
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,339
good good for him no no Sunday just

710
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,399
Sunday I got uh copies of the Articles

711
00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:23,040
translated into in the English from from

712
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:27,020
our uh our colleagues in Italy

713
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:30,359
Eduardo Russo I think provided provided

714
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,760
them to us and so I put together a long

715
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:35,280
form about this crash but if

716
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:37,619
Crush believes this crash really took

717
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:39,240
place and he related this to Congress

718
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:41,700
well he's not lying yeah and here's

719
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,500
where it also gets problematic does

720
00:34:48,649 --> 00:34:45,839
anybody remember that Lou Elizondo and

721
00:34:50,829 --> 00:34:48,659
crew went to Italy for UFO conferences

722
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:50,839
and things and to

723
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:54,000
Lobby I guess the Italian government to

724
00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:56,940
do something about UFOs and suddenly

725
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,400
this Rush who's already been connected

726
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:01,859
to him uh according to Brian Bender

727
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:06,180
mentored by Dave grosh was mentored by

728
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:10,320
or groomed for this whistleblowing by

729
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,079
Lou Elizondo and this case

730
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:15,359
which Lou Elizondo has told the others

731
00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:16,260
about

732
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:19,320
is included in his story

733
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,180
I find that more than a little bit

734
00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:23,160
suspicious and we thank the context for

735
00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:26,579
kind of generous 799 Australian saying

736
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:28,380
praise the cash yes I have the right

737
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,920
shirt on it on for this today thank you

738
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:34,079
for your kindness generosity long time

739
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,880
show supporter and friend of the show

740
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,400
the context Daniel praise the cash

741
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,560
praise the cash friends thank you for

742
00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:43,440
your kindness generosity and support so

743
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,099
I I I'm entitled to my opinion and I

744
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,400
think this case came to Dave grush from

745
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,859
Lou Elizondo and until I'm proven

746
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:55,680
otherwise that's what I will believe

747
00:35:59,390 --> 00:35:57,660
he believes it to be a real thing and

748
00:36:02,349 --> 00:35:59,400
he's not fully aware of all the other

749
00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:02,359
things if you look up the 1933 crash

750
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,220
Italian crash on the internet you don't

751
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:06,480
get much in the way of information

752
00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:08,040
there's not a lot of information out

753
00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:09,780
there in the American environment and

754
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,420
that's true because I try to Google and

755
00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:14,640
find everything I could on this case and

756
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:18,060
I got I got not very far at all so there

757
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:20,280
could be a reason why people didn't know

758
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:21,960
it was fake you'd have to speak Italian

759
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,180
to know that the case was debunked over

760
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,119
20 years ago and the people pushing that

761
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,760
story of a UFO crash retrieval

762
00:36:34,849 --> 00:36:32,640
apparently didn't speak Italian and or

763
00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:34,859
didn't do enough research to determine

764
00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:37,140
the validity of the case before

765
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:39,900
including it in their fantastic story

766
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:43,740
about UFO crash retrievals huge huge red

767
00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:45,960
flag that they're including a completely

768
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:47,880
fake case

769
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,700
for sort of proof you know Dave grush in

770
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:52,980
his interview oh these these UFO crashes

771
00:36:58,490 --> 00:36:55,320
they go back to 1930s there was one in

772
00:37:01,730 --> 00:36:58,500
Italy and the Vatican was involved no no

773
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:01,740
the case is fake and that also sheds

774
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,320
doubt on the discernment ability

775
00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:06,720
of Mr Grudge if he didn't know that case

776
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:09,060
is fake how does he not know that all

777
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:11,339
the information that he was given was

778
00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:16,140
fake this is extremely problematic

779
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:17,880
but

780
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:21,300
um a number of the uh groups I belong to

781
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,099
And subscribe to

782
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:25,680
have access to people all around the

783
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:28,020
world and they just said this thing was

784
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:29,339
this thing was

785
00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:33,000
um exposed more than two decades ago so

786
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,680
it makes you wonder about the

787
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:36,320
credibility of his of his information

788
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:39,240
yeah it makes you wonder about the

789
00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:41,820
credibility of his information if he

790
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:44,460
didn't know that case was fake and he

791
00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:46,260
even talked about it in an interview as

792
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:48,300
if it was a hundred percent real true

793
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:49,260
case

794
00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:51,000
how do we know that the rest of his

795
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,640
information isn't at just as fake

796
00:37:58,430 --> 00:37:55,920
and I for one am getting tired of these

797
00:38:02,530 --> 00:37:58,440
storytellers you got to come with some

798
00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:02,540
evidence or don't make the claims right

799
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:04,859
and what about

800
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:07,380
so-called investigative journalist Ross

801
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,720
coltar how come Kevin Randall could

802
00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:11,760
research that case and quickly determine

803
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,460
that the case was fake but Ross coltar

804
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:15,359
couldn't

805
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,180
or maybe Russ coldthart did and it

806
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:20,160
didn't fit his narrative so they just

807
00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:22,440
glossed over it but knowing Ross

808
00:38:25,849 --> 00:38:24,359
coldthart if he was smart enough to

809
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,859
actually research that case and

810
00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:27,839
determine it was fake he would have cut

811
00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:30,359
it from the interview and they didn't so

812
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:32,220
somebody didn't do their due diligence

813
00:38:37,069 --> 00:38:34,740
oh that's right the people selling

814
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,079
everybody this story didn't do the work

815
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:40,079
why does it take Kevin Randall to do the

816
00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:41,940
work why did he why was he able to

817
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:44,280
determine that case was a hoax 30 years

818
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:46,040
ago and Ross cold thought couldn't

819
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:49,440
Leslie Kane couldn't Ralph Blumenthal

820
00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:52,920
couldn't and the the debrief

821
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:54,839
how many people work for the debrief

822
00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,579
they couldn't research that case and

823
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:58,020
find out it was fake and let everybody

824
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:00,540
know oh by the way he's talking about

825
00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:02,820
this Italian case that's fake in their

826
00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:04,500
original article in the original story

827
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:08,339
no but this welcome to UFO land where

828
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:11,400
people tell their stories and then you

829
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:13,740
know it takes real researchers to get in

830
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,420
there and do the job that the people

831
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,700
making all the money should have done in

832
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:19,680
the first place but did not

833
00:39:24,109 --> 00:39:22,260
they didn't do the work

834
00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:24,119
didn't fit the narrative

835
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:27,300
and then the other thing I heard and I

836
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:29,160
have not been able to verify this yet so

837
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:30,480
I don't know if it's true or not that he

838
00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:31,980
was involved in some fashion at

839
00:39:35,569 --> 00:39:33,480
Skinwalker Ranch

840
00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:35,579
in jury caution people don't don't smear

841
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:37,260
him with this idea he was involved in

842
00:39:40,609 --> 00:39:39,180
the skin walker Ranch and I'm saying the

843
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:40,619
point is not that he was there and he

844
00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:41,760
may have been there for a couple of days

845
00:39:47,089 --> 00:39:44,700
it's the people who were there that he

846
00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:47,099
would have come in contact to yeah and

847
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:48,900
who would he have come in contact with

848
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,020
that are were also heavily involved in

849
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:54,240
Skinwalker Ranch who who would that be

850
00:39:59,150 --> 00:39:57,480
oh the usual cast of characters who have

851
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,160
been telling these same stories about

852
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:01,920
UFOs grass retrievals and bodies for how

853
00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:04,440
many years now and have never proven any

854
00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:06,660
of it who may have fed him some of this

855
00:40:12,849 --> 00:40:09,260
other information people who

856
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,859
allegedly have high government positions

857
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,359
talking about things one of them would

858
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,040
have been Eric Davis

859
00:40:21,290 --> 00:40:19,680
who is on the record and I heard him uh

860
00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:21,300
I don't know if it was on Coast to Coast

861
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:23,460
or one of the other shows talking about

862
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:26,760
how the Del Rio crash was real

863
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:28,980
and I'm thinking no it's not and I've

864
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:33,839
known that for literally 15 years yeah

865
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:35,940
so here we have

866
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:40,020
Eric Davis who is directly connected to

867
00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:44,640
Dave grosh saying that another UFO crash

868
00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:47,640
is real when it's not it's completely

869
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:50,099
and totally not and no offense but if I

870
00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:51,720
have to choose between whose opinion I

871
00:40:58,190 --> 00:40:55,800
trust more Eric Davis or Kevin Randall a

872
00:41:01,970 --> 00:40:58,200
man who's been researching crash crashed

873
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:01,980
UFO crashes and UFOs for 30 plus years I

874
00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:05,400
I'll take Mr Randall uh as far as

875
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:08,099
opinion goes and

876
00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:10,980
Eric Davis is one of the people directly

877
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:13,800
connected to Dave grush who believes

878
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,440
literally anything he's told even Travis

879
00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:19,020
Taylor has said that if if somebody

880
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,180
tells Eric Davis a story he believes

881
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:23,940
it's true he does know he has no

882
00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:27,720
discernment whatsoever so is Eric Davis

883
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:29,400
one of the people

884
00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:33,060
feeding Dave grush information right

885
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,020
here is another fake story that Eric

886
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:39,359
Davis promotes as a true story that is

887
00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:41,460
completely and totally fake

888
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:43,940
based on my research and the

889
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:46,380
disintegration of the um

890
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:49,140
Tales told by Robert Willingham

891
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,060
who claimed who claimed he was an Air

892
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:54,359
Force fighter pilot that he had risen to

893
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,240
a colonel in the Air Force I got his

894
00:42:02,930 --> 00:41:59,700
military records he had risen to the

895
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:02,940
rank of E4 rather low ranking enlisted

896
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:05,099
man he is technically was a technically

897
00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:07,700
a uh

898
00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:10,380
December of 1945.

899
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:12,599
the war was not declared over officially

900
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:15,660
until I agree Simon 1946 the shooting

901
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:18,300
had ended obviously in September of 45.

902
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:22,380
so Willingham is was technically a

903
00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:25,500
veteran of World War II he was on duty

904
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:29,660
from December of 1945 through January of

905
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:34,320
1947 13 months was in the four claimed

906
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:35,880
he went to flight school claimed he was

907
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:37,560
a fighter pilot claim he was promoted to

908
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,800
full Colonel by Lyndon Johnson which the

909
00:42:50,410 --> 00:42:42,839
way he tells it was a story right out of

910
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:53,089
a guy got promoted by Presidential

911
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:55,859
Directive and and so he yeah was

912
00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:57,300
claiming that that Lyndon Johnson had

913
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,579
done that in 1976 of course Johnson

914
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:01,440
wasn't the president he died in January

915
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:03,780
so it's very unlikely that happened yeah

916
00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:06,060
so in other words Eric Davis is

917
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:08,819
promoting a UFO crash retrieval story as

918
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,300
true that was told by a total BS artist

919
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:13,920
there's no other way to say it the guy

920
00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:15,720
claimed that he got promoted by a

921
00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:17,640
president that wasn't even in office at

922
00:43:30,530 --> 00:43:27,589
and and these these people don't do any

923
00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:30,540
work before they just decide a case is

924
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:32,660
true we've seen it time and time again

925
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:36,300
and so you know pardon me for saying

926
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:38,040
that if this guy is connected to Eric

927
00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:40,440
Davis Eric Davis is probably feeding him

928
00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:42,599
completely fake stories if he's

929
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:44,280
connected to the people that are

930
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:46,200
connected to Skinwalker Ranch that's a

931
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:47,940
huge red flag if he's collected

932
00:43:53,329 --> 00:43:50,460
connected to Lou Elizondo who lied

933
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,339
literally for years and hey I'm aware he

934
00:43:58,970 --> 00:43:56,160
got a GQ hero award for lying to

935
00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:58,980
everybody but GQ sucks because they

936
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:00,660
didn't do anything they give him an

937
00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:05,339
award hey you're a hero the GQ know that

938
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,800
he lied to everybody for years about a

939
00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:09,780
pentagon program that never existed

940
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:12,540
these are the people in Dave grush's

941
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,400
neighborhood right and and

942
00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:20,400
it's it's wonderful

943
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:23,160
claimed he was badly wounded in Korea so

944
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:25,020
they took him out of Fighters

945
00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:33,589
I have a lot of friends in the air guard

946
00:44:36,349 --> 00:44:35,640
and I asked him about that you know the

947
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,359
problem

948
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,800
with

949
00:44:41,569 --> 00:44:39,359
um if you're disqualified from flying

950
00:44:44,349 --> 00:44:41,579
Fighters it's because one of the reasons

951
00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:44,359
might be that you cannot withstand the

952
00:44:49,069 --> 00:44:47,220
forces of the Egyptian if something goes

953
00:44:50,569 --> 00:44:49,079
wrong you have to reject and from what

954
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,579
Willingham was talking about those

955
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,040
forces would have come into play so he

956
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:54,720
had he had left the active force and

957
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,339
joined the reserves they can continue to

958
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:57,599
fight fighters

959
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:00,480
untrue the one thing that I point out

960
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,260
which my experience helps with is I know

961
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:06,480
of no military pilot who's ever gotten

962
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:09,420
an FAA Pilot's license

963
00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:12,000
who did not get a commercial license

964
00:45:16,849 --> 00:45:14,760
and I say that because according to the

965
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,859
FAA regulations and I I use this

966
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:18,359
regulation of mine yeah for those

967
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:21,900
unaware Kevin Randall is a career pilot

968
00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:24,900
military pilot I believe that he even

969
00:45:31,490 --> 00:45:29,400
re-enlisted to uh go fly in Desert Storm

970
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:31,500
and Associate it Desert Shield and

971
00:45:35,809 --> 00:45:34,319
Desert Storm my benefit if you went to a

972
00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:35,819
military Flight School

973
00:45:39,710 --> 00:45:37,859
and graduated from that military flight

974
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:39,720
school and you've had more than 200

975
00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:41,160
hours of flight time and when I

976
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:43,740
graduated from flight school we had 210

977
00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:45,420
hours

978
00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:47,819
you could go to the FAA take a 50

979
00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:49,500
question test and you'd be issued a

980
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:51,540
commercial pilot's license Willingham

981
00:45:56,809 --> 00:45:54,599
had a private pilot's license not as hmm

982
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:56,819
important as a commercial license I

983
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,200
didn't get mine until I got back from

984
00:46:02,990 --> 00:46:00,240
Vietnam and I had like 1200 hours of

985
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,000
flight time or more than that 1100

986
00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:05,040
combat flight time

987
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:08,819
so wow you know I got back I I took the

988
00:46:13,849 --> 00:46:11,220
test I didn't pass with a really high

989
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:13,859
grade but who cares because I passed you

990
00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:15,420
know I'm not going to take it again to

991
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:16,980
raise the yeah that's like that old

992
00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:20,040
saying Seas get degrees right great I

993
00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:21,720
got my commercial pilots license but I

994
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:22,859
know of no

995
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:25,500
military pilot

996
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,720
who didn't who took the test and took

997
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,640
the time to do that got a private

998
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,200
pilot's license but that was all that

999
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,880
Willingham had was a private pilot's

1000
00:46:37,309 --> 00:46:34,560
license that argues against what he said

1001
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:37,319
I think this is a long-involved way of

1002
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,400
looking at the vetting process and and

1003
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,960
vetting is extremely important who may

1004
00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:44,400
have been at the skin rocker Ranch and

1005
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,200
it may be Davis who

1006
00:46:51,410 --> 00:46:48,720
talked to Crush about the Dell Real

1007
00:46:53,870 --> 00:46:51,420
Crash iffy in fact

1008
00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,880
she won't tell us what he looks like a

1009
00:46:59,089 --> 00:46:55,560
pilot yeah he does he knows about other

1010
00:47:02,770 --> 00:46:59,099
than Roswell and this 1933 crash yes he

1011
00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:02,780
was and I have speculated based on this

1012
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,079
rumor the suggestion that that Crush had

1013
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:09,480
been the Skinwalker Ranch and I know who

1014
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,460
was there and it could put him in touch

1015
00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:13,200
with some of the people whose Stories We

1016
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,000
have had a chance to bet and they're not

1017
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:16,319
all that great

1018
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:18,300
so I worry about that and that raises

1019
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,980
red flags with me does that mean that

1020
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,660
Christ is not telling the truth no it

1021
00:47:26,089 --> 00:47:23,040
means that there are some problems here

1022
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:26,099
which we could we could remedy easily

1023
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:28,740
yeah here's how we can remedy it very

1024
00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:32,280
very easily if he would provide us with

1025
00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:34,500
some of the sources

1026
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:37,500
who told you this stuff do you have any

1027
00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:39,780
other documentation that goes with it

1028
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:43,560
well supposedly supposedly

1029
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,520
there is someone that's going to also

1030
00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:50,160
join uh I don't know as a witness or a

1031
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,619
whistleblower that was more involved now

1032
00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:54,780
I don't know yeah and and this is the

1033
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:56,760
old the old game

1034
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,780
the old game of the UFO grift is that if

1035
00:48:05,089 --> 00:48:02,640
you if you come out with a fantastic

1036
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,099
story just say you have evidence and

1037
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:07,200
that more evidence is coming that's what

1038
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:08,700
we're hearing more evidence is coming

1039
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:11,400
well it's been two weeks where's the

1040
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,500
evidence it's been two weeks we don't

1041
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,319
have any evidence there is none uh but

1042
00:48:20,750 --> 00:48:18,000
there's an awful lot of red flags and

1043
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:20,760
more red flags keep popping up uh we

1044
00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,099
thank you Larry love

1045
00:48:27,470 --> 00:48:25,140
for the kind and generous dollar 99

1046
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:27,480
Super Chat I have one is anybody telling

1047
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,240
the truth anybody uh well I think people

1048
00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:32,640
are doing their best to get to the truth

1049
00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:33,900
but thank you for your kindness

1050
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,940
generosity and support of the show it is

1051
00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:37,680
much much appreciated

1052
00:48:43,849 --> 00:48:40,380
yeah so lots of red flags in the past

1053
00:48:46,550 --> 00:48:43,859
two weeks including why were so many

1054
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:46,560
things left out why would Ross colfar

1055
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:49,140
forget to mention in his original story

1056
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:53,760
that him and Dave grush and Gary Nolan

1057
00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:55,740
were meeting with members of Canadian

1058
00:49:01,309 --> 00:48:59,400
Parliament a few weeks before they aired

1059
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:01,319
that interview why would he leave that

1060
00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:04,680
out wouldn't that help the the ad

1061
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:06,599
legitimacy to it why would they leave

1062
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:10,140
that ale and why did Ross coldthart not

1063
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,640
allow or try to stop Gary Nolan and uh

1064
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:17,040
Dave grosh from telling the Canadian

1065
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:18,660
Member of Parliament certain things

1066
00:49:23,569 --> 00:49:21,540
because they had to save that for the

1067
00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,579
documentary apparently Dave grosh

1068
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,980
already has a documentary deal with who

1069
00:49:29,809 --> 00:49:28,079
these are important questions that

1070
00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:29,819
demand answers but we're getting no

1071
00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:32,940
answers we're getting obfuscation more

1072
00:49:36,650 --> 00:49:35,339
deception more kick to can and here we

1073
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,660
have

1074
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:39,359
um you know claim that another person is

1075
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:41,160
going to come forward with the evidence

1076
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:45,180
and back up Mr grush's claims when when

1077
00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:48,300
are we going to get that so if that's

1078
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:51,000
just a rumor I've heard I don't know for

1079
00:49:54,829 --> 00:49:52,140
sure

1080
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,839
but that would be key to to cracking

1081
00:49:58,490 --> 00:49:56,880
this whole thing open if that would be

1082
00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:58,500
very important but at this point that

1083
00:50:01,730 --> 00:50:00,119
hasn't happened so we can't say well

1084
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,740
there's going to be there's more more

1085
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:04,079
whistleblowers coming but we've been

1086
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,660
through this many many times we were

1087
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:09,359
yeah and and this is important and this

1088
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:12,660
is why we need to

1089
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:15,839
we need to understand the history of the

1090
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,720
UFO Community because all this has

1091
00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:21,420
happened before and it will all happen

1092
00:50:26,329 --> 00:50:24,540
again this is not the first time that a

1093
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,339
highly decorated military or

1094
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,079
intelligence Community Source came

1095
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:31,200
forward with big claims but then they

1096
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:33,720
all inevitably never provide the

1097
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:35,640
evidence that proves their claims to be

1098
00:50:40,910 --> 00:50:39,180
100 factually correct never we saw it

1099
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:40,920
with Phil Corso we've seen it with

1100
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:45,000
Sergeant Clifford Stone and many others

1101
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:47,460
we've been here before

1102
00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:49,380
we went through this with the MJ 12

1103
00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:51,240
documents for crying out loud

1104
00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:53,460
here here's these documents we got them

1105
00:50:58,010 --> 00:50:55,800
from the government and and the news

1106
00:50:59,809 --> 00:50:58,020
media spent time investigating those and

1107
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:59,819
talking to the people who have them and

1108
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:01,260
all of this sort of thing and it all

1109
00:51:09,950 --> 00:51:06,000
blew up the alien autopsy yes we had a

1110
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:09,960
big press conference in in London uh

1111
00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:13,140
announcing these films showing a little

1112
00:51:15,770 --> 00:51:14,460
bit of the footage and we were talking

1113
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,780
about how there were two and a half

1114
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:17,460
hours of footage and Truman scene

1115
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:22,319
walking the crash site yeah and uh the

1116
00:51:28,130 --> 00:51:24,839
alien autopsy film is a cautionary tale

1117
00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:28,140
of the over promise and under deliver

1118
00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:30,420
Mr Randall is correct when they had that

1119
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:32,339
Original London press conference they

1120
00:51:36,589 --> 00:51:34,140
said there was over two hours of footage

1121
00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:36,599
and it even included like the president

1122
00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:39,240
walking through the crash site did we

1123
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:41,220
ever see any of that footage of course

1124
00:51:46,910 --> 00:51:44,280
not you know why because it didn't exist

1125
00:51:49,010 --> 00:51:46,920
they were over hyping

1126
00:51:51,049 --> 00:51:49,020
claiming that they had evidence that

1127
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:51,059
they didn't have and this is all too

1128
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:53,339
common in the UFO world people make

1129
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:55,740
claims we can't just simply believe

1130
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,319
claims we have to believe evidence with

1131
00:52:02,270 --> 00:52:00,000
cranes in the background and all of this

1132
00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:02,280
stuff and when we get down to it that's

1133
00:52:09,710 --> 00:52:05,940
you crap uh we had the Roswell slides

1134
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:09,720
what went on for months yeah the Roswell

1135
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:11,700
slides was a great case that was a

1136
00:52:16,430 --> 00:52:13,980
completely and totally fake overhype

1137
00:52:19,309 --> 00:52:16,440
Story by Jaime musan Richard Dolan and

1138
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:19,319
others and yeah I will never let Richard

1139
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:22,140
Dolan forget that he participated in one

1140
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:25,079
of the biggest UFO hoaxes ever hundreds

1141
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:27,720
of thousands of dollars was stolen from

1142
00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:30,900
people for a completely and totally fake

1143
00:52:35,809 --> 00:52:33,300
made-up story right

1144
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:35,819
uh and Larry love with a kindly generous

1145
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,040
dollar 99 again says David rushed the

1146
00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:41,520
story because of the vetting yeah uh the

1147
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:43,500
New York Post or excuse me the New York

1148
00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:47,040
Times apparently or allegedly in the

1149
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,020
Washington Post and the hill and many

1150
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:51,599
other media Outlets passed on the story

1151
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:53,579
because they were being rushed and they

1152
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:56,280
wanted to vet the guy vet his claims get

1153
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,740
get some evidence and they were unable

1154
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:01,280
to do that in a short period of time so

1155
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:04,800
uh the story ends up on essentially an

1156
00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:06,780
internet blog thank you for your

1157
00:53:10,569 --> 00:53:08,760
kindness generosity and support we

1158
00:53:13,549 --> 00:53:10,579
appreciate you sure

1159
00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:13,559
this bird picture we we've got and we

1160
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:15,059
finally got a decent copy of the picture

1161
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:16,859
we were able to identify exactly where

1162
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:20,520
it was and what it was in 48 hours all

1163
00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:23,819
right and the Roswell slides hoax is a

1164
00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:27,900
perfect example of the the scummy dirt

1165
00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:30,020
balls that are selling the fake story

1166
00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:33,300
withholding information the placard on

1167
00:53:39,470 --> 00:53:37,020
this slide that apparently or allegedly

1168
00:53:42,109 --> 00:53:39,480
depicted an alien body from Roswell

1169
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,119
that's how it was sold was blurred out

1170
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:45,119
as soon as they released a clearer

1171
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,420
version of the picture within I think it

1172
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:50,640
was a couple of days people figured out

1173
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,339
that this was a mummy in a museum

1174
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:56,160
and but by then the people who sold the

1175
00:53:59,630 --> 00:53:58,200
completely fake story had made hundreds

1176
00:54:01,609 --> 00:53:59,640
of thousands of dollars in a

1177
00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:01,619
Pay-Per-View event and they never gave

1178
00:54:06,589 --> 00:54:03,780
any of the money back remember that I

1179
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:06,599
was there right at the the whole I was

1180
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,280
involved in that whole thing

1181
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:10,559
and right while that was happening and I

1182
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:13,020
remember I was so disappointed when I

1183
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,240
saw when that image popped up I I just

1184
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:17,520
couldn't believe it not that I knew

1185
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,040
exactly that it was for sure anything

1186
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:22,079
but it certainly wasn't

1187
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:23,760
you know it certainly looked like a

1188
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,579
mummy to me whatever not like I'm a

1189
00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:29,280
specialist or anything but you know I

1190
00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:31,800
mean after it came out and Tom Kerry was

1191
00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:33,300
talking about photographs you know Tom

1192
00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:35,880
Kerry kind of released this and so I'm

1193
00:54:40,609 --> 00:54:38,940
thinking well if it's not a real alien

1194
00:54:42,109 --> 00:54:40,619
where would they get the picture what

1195
00:54:44,270 --> 00:54:42,119
would be the picture of the picture was

1196
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:44,280
clearly taken in 1948 the picture was

1197
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:46,680
clearly taken yeah that's that's a

1198
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:48,960
picture it's small but there it is

1199
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:49,500
um

1200
00:54:54,109 --> 00:54:52,500
picture was the film The Slide film was

1201
00:54:57,170 --> 00:54:54,119
clearly from the right time frame the

1202
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,180
mounting was clear the right time frame

1203
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,000
the the testing suggested was 1948 so

1204
00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:01,680
where would somebody in 1948 get

1205
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:03,059
something like this and I thought when

1206
00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:04,859
science fiction movies

1207
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:06,900
but I've got a a couple of nice

1208
00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:09,720
resources on science fiction films and

1209
00:55:14,089 --> 00:55:12,119
in the 1940s when they had aliens they

1210
00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:14,099
were always humans in bizarre costumes I

1211
00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:15,780
mean yeah and by the way for those

1212
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:18,660
unaware of the Roswell slides hoax the

1213
00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:21,180
people running the hoax uh Jaime musan

1214
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:23,880
and others tried to get Roswell authors

1215
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:26,339
and researchers on board to help promote

1216
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:29,880
it as a genuine slide of a picture of an

1217
00:55:35,329 --> 00:55:33,420
alien from Roswell and people like Don

1218
00:55:37,549 --> 00:55:35,339
Schmidt who's been a guest here

1219
00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:37,559
previously and Tom Carey who's also been

1220
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:40,260
a guest here previously uh sort of got

1221
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,640
roped in and they were used and their

1222
00:55:50,569 --> 00:55:47,520
legitimacy as researchers was used to

1223
00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:50,579
help sell the story as true

1224
00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:52,440
um and I remember I've talked to both

1225
00:55:58,010 --> 00:55:54,839
Tom Carey and Don Schmidt about this

1226
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:58,020
exact hoax they were both very upset uh

1227
00:56:02,809 --> 00:56:00,359
that they were manipulated and used the

1228
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:02,819
way that they were you know because they

1229
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:04,680
got behind it thinking it was real

1230
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:07,500
because they too were withheld

1231
00:56:13,609 --> 00:56:11,520
uh the the clear version of the picture

1232
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:13,619
which would anybody if they had the

1233
00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:15,480
clear version would be able to tell what

1234
00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:17,000
that was instantly

1235
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:19,260
eventually but they were clearly human

1236
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:21,900
there was nothing like that and so I

1237
00:56:26,569 --> 00:56:24,960
said to Tom before the big big reveal I

1238
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,579
said could it be a mummy

1239
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:29,280
and he said no we've looked for no

1240
00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:31,680
mummies and we we couldn't find one that

1241
00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:32,940
matches

1242
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:34,800
and um

1243
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:38,220
but but uh within hours it was an

1244
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,380
interesting quality copy of oh the

1245
00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:42,720
placard there was a placard on it in

1246
00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:44,220
front of the the case there was a little

1247
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:46,500
placa that couldn't be read because it

1248
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,839
was blurred and right I I think what

1249
00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:50,640
happened was they purposefully blurred

1250
00:56:57,049 --> 00:56:53,160
it the people who owned the um slide

1251
00:56:58,849 --> 00:56:57,059
when they when they put out the original

1252
00:57:00,829 --> 00:56:58,859
story they kind of blurred that out so

1253
00:57:02,750 --> 00:57:00,839
you couldn't read it but the moment the

1254
00:57:05,150 --> 00:57:02,760
moment well not the moment but the

1255
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:05,160
minute I don't believe so

1256
00:57:12,109 --> 00:57:09,119
um placard it became clear what it was

1257
00:57:14,270 --> 00:57:12,119
yeah within within a few hours

1258
00:57:16,730 --> 00:57:14,280
I think 48 hours I think it took them to

1259
00:57:17,690 --> 00:57:16,740
get that far 48 hours to get a d blur to

1260
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:17,700
the point where they could read the

1261
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:18,960
whole thing and realize what was going

1262
00:57:22,370 --> 00:57:20,220
on and then they found the

1263
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,380
archaeological evidence from the late

1264
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,440
19th century where the where the poor

1265
00:57:31,010 --> 00:57:27,599
unfortunate child had been discovered

1266
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,020
yeah and by the way that makes at least

1267
00:57:38,089 --> 00:57:33,599
three or four times I'm aware of that a

1268
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,099
dead baby was used to sell a UFO hoax

1269
00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:41,040
we've got the Starchild skull that's a

1270
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:44,099
dead baby we've got the Atacama humanoid

1271
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:46,079
that was a dead baby and we've got the

1272
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:50,720
Roswell slides hoax also a dead baby so

1273
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:54,359
whenever anybody gets nasty to me about

1274
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,300
you know uh people in the UFO Community

1275
00:58:02,089 --> 00:57:59,280
aren't slime ball Stephen why do you

1276
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:02,099
call people slime balls uh that's one

1277
00:58:09,230 --> 00:58:05,880
example that I will give people if

1278
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:09,240
you're if you are willing to use a dead

1279
00:58:15,290 --> 00:58:12,480
baby's body to sell a fake ale million

1280
00:58:17,329 --> 00:58:15,300
hoax then you're a slime ball

1281
00:58:18,829 --> 00:58:17,339
estimate of the situation love your work

1282
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:18,839
Kevin and great blog have you ever been

1283
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:20,760
a part of the sign historical group I

1284
00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:23,520
will ask him for you uh when he's here

1285
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:25,380
in person we're reviewing a previous

1286
00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:27,300
interview right now estimated the

1287
00:58:30,589 --> 00:58:28,980
situation but thank you for your

1288
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:30,599
kindness your generosity and your

1289
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:31,740
support of the show much much

1290
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,940
appreciated

1291
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:35,040
and I think somebody asked me that you

1292
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,160
needed music so DM me on Twitter and we

1293
00:58:42,049 --> 00:58:40,079
can talk about that I haven't been

1294
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,059
discovered and that sort of thing

1295
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:43,920
I know and when you see the whole thing

1296
00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:46,559
it's clearly a museum setting it's not

1297
00:58:49,549 --> 00:58:48,180
what you there you go yeah there you go

1298
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,559
everybody with two-year-old boy there

1299
00:58:54,109 --> 00:58:51,839
you go right there yeah and that gave

1300
00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:54,119
the whole thing away

1301
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:57,420
yeah but but at that point we had we had

1302
00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:59,160
the experts coming out saying well this

1303
00:59:01,970 --> 00:59:00,299
that and the other thing of

1304
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:01,980
anthropologists

1305
00:59:06,349 --> 00:59:04,559
uh saying yeah it says what they had was

1306
00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:06,359
it doesn't look like it's human and it's

1307
00:59:10,609 --> 00:59:08,220
yeah and for those who don't recall

1308
00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:10,619
Jaime musan and the people running that

1309
00:59:15,170 --> 00:59:12,660
hoax got medical experts and everybody

1310
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:15,180
to say that that thing in the depict it

1311
00:59:19,490 --> 00:59:16,500
couldn't be human

1312
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,500
it was human arms are not quite right or

1313
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,880
the hands are wrong or there's something

1314
00:59:25,849 --> 00:59:22,559
wrong with that

1315
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:25,859
the the the whole thing but the point is

1316
00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:27,780
we have that kind of information and

1317
00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:29,940
that kind of speculation going on prior

1318
00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:32,940
to the discovery of the placard or the

1319
00:59:37,730 --> 00:59:35,460
reading of the placard and once that was

1320
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:37,740
out it collapsed I mean the whole thing

1321
00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:40,020
fell apart I think instantly

1322
00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:43,140
held on to the idea it might not be a

1323
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:46,140
mummy for quite a while uh after yes he

1324
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:49,440
did yes because I I tried to talk to him

1325
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,140
oh I don't know several months maybe

1326
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,720
even six months afterwards and it said

1327
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:56,819
something about have you changed your

1328
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:58,920
thoughts basically Randy he was standing

1329
01:00:04,490 --> 01:00:01,920
standing with it still but but Don Don

1330
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,500
pretty much well Don called and

1331
01:00:08,569 --> 01:00:06,720
apologized John you called me right away

1332
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:08,579
and said what do I do

1333
01:00:23,569 --> 01:00:21,470
Tom just really believed in it I I had

1334
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,579
Tom on on my uh

1335
01:00:29,089 --> 01:00:25,740
my radio show

1336
01:00:30,530 --> 01:00:29,099
a year or two later or no I think and I

1337
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:30,540
I told him you know we'll just we'll

1338
01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:32,460
talk about UFOs yeah I'm gonna have to

1339
01:00:36,349 --> 01:00:34,500
check I know for a fact Nolan was

1340
01:00:38,569 --> 01:00:36,359
involved in the Atacama humanoid thing

1341
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:38,579
he was in the documentary I don't know

1342
01:00:42,410 --> 01:00:40,200
if he was ever involved in the Stark

1343
01:00:45,289 --> 01:00:42,420
child skull

1344
01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:45,299
um and Tyson B 1994 is here someone

1345
01:00:49,849 --> 01:00:47,220
would have to be crazy to let Dr Greer

1346
01:00:52,730 --> 01:00:49,859
operate on them he goes on space

1347
01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:52,740
missions with ZZ Top no underground base

1348
01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:55,079
missions and he saw alien Medical

1349
01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:57,780
Technology well everything's up to up

1350
01:01:00,890 --> 01:00:59,460
for grabs and so we talked a little bit

1351
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:00,900
about the um

1352
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:04,559
about the Roswell slides and I he'd

1353
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:06,299
pretty much come around to the idea that

1354
01:01:10,190 --> 01:01:08,640
well you know it's really not an alien

1355
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,200
creature

1356
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:12,780
so yeah Don Schmidt was pissed I think

1357
01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:14,760
Tom Kerry it took him a while to accept

1358
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:16,500
that he got duped and the whole thing

1359
01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:18,780
was fake but but the point simply is

1360
01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:20,220
we've we've gone through this before so

1361
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,500
now we're at the beginning of of this

1362
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,960
process and we have a guy telling

1363
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:27,119
stories but he's not provided us with

1364
01:01:31,549 --> 01:01:28,319
much of anything

1365
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,559
other than a reference to a crash in

1366
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:34,079
Italy that apparently is a hoax

1367
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,619
and and big red flag huge red flag my

1368
01:01:42,589 --> 01:01:40,319
speculations on if it was his skin

1369
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,599
walker Ranch you would have come into

1370
01:01:45,470 --> 01:01:44,400
contact with these people some of the

1371
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:45,480
names that have been associated with

1372
01:01:50,210 --> 01:01:47,640
this or Christopher melon I think has

1373
01:01:51,770 --> 01:01:50,220
been involved in some fashion in this

1374
01:01:53,809 --> 01:01:51,780
and

1375
01:01:55,609 --> 01:01:53,819
um things like that but these would be

1376
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,619
the people he's talking talking to and

1377
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:57,839
Lou Alexander to get somebody

1378
01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:00,000
who can uh

1379
01:02:05,569 --> 01:02:02,760
who's disassociated with some of the

1380
01:02:07,069 --> 01:02:05,579
other aspects of this and talk about it

1381
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,079
in the um

1382
01:02:11,569 --> 01:02:09,839
this is sort of in a pristine way I I

1383
01:02:14,210 --> 01:02:11,579
just feel it's not going to go very well

1384
01:02:15,609 --> 01:02:14,220
yeah and and that's the problem because

1385
01:02:18,349 --> 01:02:15,619
so far

1386
01:02:21,049 --> 01:02:18,359
all that we have heard from this

1387
01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:21,059
gentleman Mr grush is that he

1388
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:23,940
has been involved with let's see Jeremy

1389
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:27,599
Corbell George Knapp Leslie Kane Ralph

1390
01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:30,900
Blumenthal Ross colthard Lou Elizondo

1391
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,799
Eric putoff or excuse me Eric Davis and

1392
01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:36,480
others that were all involved in the

1393
01:02:43,549 --> 01:02:40,020
ttsa Techno scam well Ross culthart

1394
01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:43,559
might not have been involved in that but

1395
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,099
this guy is closely associated with all

1396
01:02:52,130 --> 01:02:49,440
of these UFO people

1397
01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:52,140
where are the real government people

1398
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:54,660
that are UFO wackadus

1399
01:02:59,089 --> 01:02:57,540
that told him things

1400
01:03:02,210 --> 01:02:59,099
because

1401
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:02,220
it's my opinion that so far he's being

1402
01:03:11,690 --> 01:03:05,640
fed disinformation misinformation and

1403
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:11,700
and hoax fake UFO Mythology by all these

1404
01:03:15,770 --> 01:03:14,460
people that I mentioned that's my

1405
01:03:18,170 --> 01:03:15,780
opinion and I'm allowed to have an

1406
01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:18,180
opinion and so I'm proven wrong

1407
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:21,900
I I believe that he is being fed this

1408
01:03:25,789 --> 01:03:23,220
information

1409
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:25,799
from people whose names we are all well

1410
01:03:31,789 --> 01:03:29,040
aware of and several of these people

1411
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:31,799
have been caught lying or selling

1412
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:34,319
provably fake stories before

1413
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:37,020
that's a huge huge red flag and if you

1414
01:03:41,690 --> 01:03:38,940
want to ignore those red flags because

1415
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:41,700
you desperately want to believe

1416
01:03:46,730 --> 01:03:45,119
great and by the way I should take a

1417
01:03:47,470 --> 01:03:46,740
moment to make sure that I put on the

1418
01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:47,480
record

1419
01:03:54,049 --> 01:03:51,240
I believe there may have been crash

1420
01:03:55,490 --> 01:03:54,059
retrievals of alien or non-human

1421
01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:55,500
technology

1422
01:03:59,690 --> 01:03:57,839
but I don't believe that we're ever

1423
01:04:02,569 --> 01:03:59,700
going to get the truth about those

1424
01:04:05,809 --> 01:04:02,579
things from UFO people who have been

1425
01:04:08,569 --> 01:04:05,819
selling fake stories for a long time or

1426
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:08,579
UFO people who have provably lied to us

1427
01:04:14,109 --> 01:04:12,000
many many times for profit it's all a

1428
01:04:17,030 --> 01:04:14,119
money circus so far

1429
01:04:19,370 --> 01:04:17,040
and that is proven by the fact that Mr

1430
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:19,380
grush apparently already has a

1431
01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:22,799
documentary deal and I I I'm with Jerry

1432
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:25,140
Clark on this we don't have all the

1433
01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:26,640
yeah we're still waiting for that

1434
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:29,640
information but it's being

1435
01:04:33,289 --> 01:04:31,680
kind of dribbled out the way it was with

1436
01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:33,299
the Roswell slides the way it was with

1437
01:04:38,109 --> 01:04:36,020
the alien autopsy the way it was

1438
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,119
Corbell says

1439
01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:41,160
of this or we or it could go the other

1440
01:04:45,470 --> 01:04:42,900
way or the way it was dribbled out with

1441
01:04:48,589 --> 01:04:45,480
the project mobile nonsense

1442
01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:48,599
ufological hoax from the other side of

1443
01:04:54,109 --> 01:04:51,180
the side of the spectrum and we had we

1444
01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:54,119
had Charles Moore from Project Mobile

1445
01:04:59,630 --> 01:04:57,720
basically lying and we can document yeah

1446
01:05:02,150 --> 01:04:59,640
he definitely did Glam onto the Roswell

1447
01:05:03,770 --> 01:05:02,160
slidehouse the mobile answer

1448
01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:03,780
came about

1449
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,500
um

1450
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:07,200
I had gotten hold of the you're right

1451
01:05:12,970 --> 01:05:11,220
Larry love wins Aloft data from from

1452
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:12,980
uh

1453
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:16,079
1947. and I supplied it it's it is hard

1454
01:05:18,829 --> 01:05:17,579
to keep track there's multiple there's

1455
01:05:21,410 --> 01:05:18,839
many there's more

1456
01:05:22,970 --> 01:05:21,420
and in the original document oh and by

1457
01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:22,980
the way that's not the only one there's

1458
01:05:28,970 --> 01:05:27,000
also the alashenka Russian alien hoax

1459
01:05:30,890 --> 01:05:28,980
so we've got at least four of them we've

1460
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:30,900
got the star child skull the Atacama

1461
01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:33,420
humanoid we've got the Roswell slide

1462
01:05:39,230 --> 01:05:35,540
soaks and we've got the alochenka

1463
01:05:42,289 --> 01:05:39,240
Russian uh Alien bait you know alien

1464
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,299
hoax uh and that elishenka looked

1465
01:05:47,329 --> 01:05:44,160
suspiciously a lot like the Atacama

1466
01:05:49,010 --> 01:05:47,339
humanoid that's a whole crazy story we

1467
01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:49,020
covered that here as well so we've got

1468
01:05:55,609 --> 01:05:51,480
at least four different sets of people

1469
01:05:58,609 --> 01:05:55,619
grifting fake alien stories on the

1470
01:06:01,849 --> 01:05:58,619
bodies of dead babies I think that is

1471
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:01,859
Despicable and disgusting and I for one

1472
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:02,880
and

1473
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:05,819
you know even even to be honest with you

1474
01:06:09,049 --> 01:06:07,140
like

1475
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,059
there's a natural history museum in

1476
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,520
Philadelphia and they have mummies they

1477
01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:13,440
and they're human bodies

1478
01:06:19,309 --> 01:06:16,500
and uh the last time I visited that

1479
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:19,319
museum I remember thinking like

1480
01:06:24,589 --> 01:06:22,140
this body is just this human being is

1481
01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,599
just laying here getting gawked at

1482
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,000
a dead person why don't they just bury

1483
01:06:32,510 --> 01:06:29,039
this person and let them rest in peace

1484
01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:32,520
right uh but what we've got in the UFO

1485
01:06:38,029 --> 01:06:34,440
Community is a bunch of people that are

1486
01:06:39,890 --> 01:06:38,039
so slimy despicable and disgusting that

1487
01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:39,900
they're literally willing to use dead

1488
01:06:44,809 --> 01:06:43,140
babies to grift for UFO money

1489
01:06:46,910 --> 01:06:44,819
expect me for giving him the charge and

1490
01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:46,920
I got a letter from him asking me for

1491
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:49,020
additional charge to create the wins

1492
01:06:54,349 --> 01:06:52,319
Aloft data and at which he he I figured

1493
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,359
he was better at it than I would be but

1494
01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:56,640
the problem that it turned out I agree

1495
01:07:01,549 --> 01:06:59,460
with drugs I find the data we've got a

1496
01:07:02,809 --> 01:07:01,559
um try for a decade then I'm impressed

1497
01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:02,819
when we got a hold of the document we

1498
01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:04,380
thank the Air Force for this they got a

1499
01:07:08,329 --> 01:07:06,839
hold of Dr Albert crary's Diaries and he

1500
01:07:11,210 --> 01:07:08,339
filth notes yeah I don't know about the

1501
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:11,220
Lord project in New Mexico where they

1502
01:07:16,370 --> 01:07:13,740
were launching these balloon arrays and

1503
01:07:20,029 --> 01:07:16,380
he says the flight that they settled on

1504
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,039
for for proving modern museum is yeah

1505
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:21,599
but the documentation says the flight

1506
01:07:27,049 --> 01:07:24,480
never flew it was canceled

1507
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,059
and yet we you know that kind of

1508
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,799
information was dribbling out and and

1509
01:07:33,289 --> 01:07:31,440
Charles Moore insisted well no we didn't

1510
01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:33,299
really cancel the flight it was launched

1511
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:34,680
earlier then

1512
01:07:38,690 --> 01:07:36,480
the time we canceled it there was all

1513
01:07:40,430 --> 01:07:38,700
this nonsense going on and so you know

1514
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,440
we could look at it from both sides of

1515
01:07:44,029 --> 01:07:42,000
the fence yeah even the government has

1516
01:07:46,849 --> 01:07:44,039
hoaxed things the information dribbling

1517
01:07:47,710 --> 01:07:46,859
out so when Jerry says to me or writes

1518
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,720
to me

1519
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,440
[Music]

1520
01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:51,420
never been uncovered to my knowledge

1521
01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:53,640
Kevin never get all the information well

1522
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:55,559
he's absolutely correct on that but we

1523
01:08:00,109 --> 01:07:57,119
can take him by the way I just

1524
01:08:02,270 --> 01:08:00,119
republished on our audio podcasts are

1525
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:02,280
our coverage of the skinny Bob video

1526
01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:04,020
It's called let's talk about the skinny

1527
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:06,359
Bob Alien video and what I'll say about

1528
01:08:12,109 --> 01:08:08,940
the skinny Bob Alien video is that I I

1529
01:08:16,249 --> 01:08:12,119
have built an awful lot of very Advanced

1530
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:16,259
puppets and and even some animatronics

1531
01:08:20,169 --> 01:08:17,880
um I have a background in computer

1532
01:08:23,329 --> 01:08:20,179
science I could not

1533
01:08:24,410 --> 01:08:23,339
recreate that skinny Bob video to look

1534
01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:24,420
that good

1535
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,759
and by the way I'm not saying it's a

1536
01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:29,279
real video of an alien I I'm just saying

1537
01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:32,460
if it is fake it is a very very well

1538
01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:35,940
done fake very very

1539
01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:39,480
artistically done fake I can't get

1540
01:08:46,249 --> 01:08:43,380
things in CGI to Blink that to Blink

1541
01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:46,259
that realistically and I can't get a

1542
01:08:51,410 --> 01:08:48,540
puppet to Blink that realistically with

1543
01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,420
and move its eyebrows around like that

1544
01:08:55,970 --> 01:08:53,759
is a great fake if it is a fake Kevin

1545
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:55,980
and maybe someday we'll do another show

1546
01:09:00,829 --> 01:08:59,160
trying to get some CGI artists to look

1547
01:09:02,269 --> 01:09:00,839
at it and see what they think so look at

1548
01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:02,279
some of the stuff we do have and say

1549
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,880
does this hold up to

1550
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:07,440
um and I I was going to say

1551
01:09:13,130 --> 01:09:09,600
disinterested scrutiny but I I think

1552
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:13,140
it's really not just it's not really

1553
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:16,020
disinformation

1554
01:09:20,269 --> 01:09:18,660
it's not really disinterested scrutiny

1555
01:09:21,650 --> 01:09:20,279
because I have a rooting interest in

1556
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:21,660
this sort of thing so I'm a little bit

1557
01:09:28,249 --> 01:09:25,199
biased on that but look at the um

1558
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,259
look at the case uh in a dispassionate

1559
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:30,960
way I'll drop another name here uh when

1560
01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:32,520
I was talking to James Van Allen yeah

1561
01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:34,920
the radiation belt guy yeah think so

1562
01:09:47,689 --> 01:09:40,430
and he said you have to make your

1563
01:09:51,890 --> 01:09:49,849
I agree you have to look at it and its

1564
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,900
dispassionate way and I'll go on an

1565
01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:53,520
anecdote here which is kind of funny

1566
01:09:57,950 --> 01:09:56,340
because I asked him about UFO you know

1567
01:09:59,150 --> 01:09:57,960
believing in UFOs and he says well I

1568
01:10:00,250 --> 01:09:59,160
should have asked in the middle of

1569
01:10:03,530 --> 01:10:00,260
Wyoming

1570
01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:03,540
hold on hold on don't expect Jeep is

1571
01:10:11,090 --> 01:10:09,050
I think so

1572
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:11,100
yeah I didn't think that you would mind

1573
01:10:16,910 --> 01:10:14,340
considering it's fair use

1574
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,920
I'm not just replaying the whole thing

1575
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:18,960
we're talking about it as we go we'll

1576
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:21,120
have a discussion about it why don't you

1577
01:10:26,570 --> 01:10:24,600
send me your email and I would be happy

1578
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:26,580
to have you come here and talk to us

1579
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:28,260
about it as well

1580
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,940
and I said at the beginning of the

1581
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:31,679
broadcast that I was going to ask Mr

1582
01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:34,080
Randall to come here but it seemed to be

1583
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,560
kind of stupid to say hey uh

1584
01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:39,600
I really think that what you said on

1585
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,460
Martin Willis show is very important can

1586
01:10:46,370 --> 01:10:43,679
you come here and say the same exact

1587
01:10:48,530 --> 01:10:46,380
thing you know so I thought that we

1588
01:10:50,330 --> 01:10:48,540
could do this and do commentary over it

1589
01:10:52,130 --> 01:10:50,340
it is fair use we're educating the

1590
01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:52,140
public it's a transformative work we're

1591
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:54,780
discussing it as we go hold on one

1592
01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:00,350
and by the way usually I would ask but I

1593
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:01,800
really didn't think that you would have

1594
01:11:09,290 --> 01:11:06,060
an issue with it uh because we we I'm

1595
01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:09,300
sure that a lot of people have played uh

1596
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,940
clips from your recent interview with Mr

1597
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:14,640
Blumenthal as well but this is my email

1598
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:17,760
address and if you'd like to uh join the

1599
01:11:22,370 --> 01:11:20,280
show I'd be happy to have you and hear

1600
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:22,380
your thoughts because mostly we hear

1601
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:34,010
well fair use is fair use friends uh I

1602
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:36,840
have a policy of of

1603
01:11:42,050 --> 01:11:39,360
fair use here anybody is free to take

1604
01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:42,060
any clips from the show and by the way

1605
01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:45,540
the link to the original interview is in

1606
01:11:50,090 --> 01:11:48,060
the description of the video here and I

1607
01:11:53,149 --> 01:11:50,100
encourage you to listen to the entire

1608
01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:53,159
thing we're only talking about and

1609
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:55,800
interested in the Mr Randall's thoughts

1610
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:57,120
on the

1611
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:00,480
uh Dave grush situation

1612
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,640
which means you have to eliminate the

1613
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:04,800
money by the way you know if if there's

1614
01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:06,719
going to be an issue Mr Willis you're

1615
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:08,580
free to copyright claim me but that

1616
01:12:11,630 --> 01:12:10,320
would be a false copyright claim and the

1617
01:12:15,229 --> 01:12:11,640
strike would revert to your channel

1618
01:12:17,390 --> 01:12:15,239
because this is clearly fair use

1619
01:12:20,689 --> 01:12:17,400
but I you know I I don't want anybody

1620
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:20,699
upset 20 years later okay I saw a story

1621
01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:24,420
on the news about some zebra who'd

1622
01:12:29,630 --> 01:12:27,300
escaped from a zoo in Wyoming

1623
01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:29,640
so you could be in Wyoming and hear the

1624
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:31,140
thunder of hoof Beast I'm not sure

1625
01:12:36,770 --> 01:12:33,300
exactly zebra I thought it was just kind

1626
01:12:41,390 --> 01:12:36,780
of coincidental the analogy he had

1627
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:41,400
provided me to came to truth in in uh in

1628
01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:43,980
Wyoming sometime later well uh thanks

1629
01:12:51,709 --> 01:12:47,880
for the uh for the uh donation boat uh

1630
01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:51,719
he said Rush testified for 11 hours to

1631
01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:53,159
Congress what do you think about that

1632
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:55,020
that hasn't been confirmed yet I don't

1633
01:12:58,209 --> 01:12:56,340
think they've had a lot of people

1634
01:13:00,890 --> 01:12:58,219
testifying

1635
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,900
and while while that is being said just

1636
01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:02,640
to let you know I have uh let the

1637
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:04,860
audience know I have Mario Woods on who

1638
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:07,679
testified for four hours and 19 minutes

1639
01:13:12,169 --> 01:13:10,260
he's going to be on next week as a

1640
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:12,179
special guest coming back on yeah I

1641
01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:13,679
would think it would be okay Justified

1642
01:13:16,729 --> 01:13:15,000
too we don't know what he said to

1643
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:16,739
Congress we don't know any of that sort

1644
01:13:19,810 --> 01:13:17,760
of thing we don't know what information

1645
01:13:22,130 --> 01:13:19,820
he provided to them yeah

1646
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:22,140
hold on one second because I just want

1647
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,560
to check on something for One Moment One

1648
01:13:33,950 --> 01:13:31,250
foreign

1649
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:33,960
yeah you know

1650
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:36,719
let's get back to it then

1651
01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:39,659
I will be monitoring my email Mr Willis

1652
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:42,600
you're free to email me

1653
01:13:56,770 --> 01:13:51,830
okay I'm gonna be monitoring my email

1654
01:14:02,750 --> 01:14:00,709
let's get back to this here Congress and

1655
01:14:04,669 --> 01:14:02,760
he was talking about the Italian UFO

1656
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,679
yeah and by the way I just wanted to

1657
01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:06,719
mention that an awful lot of people I

1658
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,460
agree with Mr Randall an awful lot of

1659
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,560
people testified before Congress that

1660
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:12,719
doesn't mean that everything they say is

1661
01:14:16,610 --> 01:14:15,420
the truth it doesn't mean anything it

1662
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:16,620
means that they

1663
01:14:22,669 --> 01:14:18,960
testified before members of Congress

1664
01:14:24,770 --> 01:14:22,679
there's also been a claim of one of Dr

1665
01:14:27,169 --> 01:14:24,780
Steven Greer's UFO whistleblowers

1666
01:14:30,050 --> 01:14:27,179
so-called whistleblowers in the form of

1667
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:30,060
Eric Hecker claimed that he was

1668
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,560
testifying before the Senate

1669
01:14:35,870 --> 01:14:33,600
intelligence committee and then it turns

1670
01:14:38,830 --> 01:14:35,880
out no he didn't he never testified

1671
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,840
before any member of Congress he

1672
01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:41,520
somebody gave members of Congress

1673
01:14:46,010 --> 01:14:43,500
documents from him or some kind of

1674
01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:46,020
evidence from him he he made claims that

1675
01:14:50,689 --> 01:14:48,360
he testified before Congress no he

1676
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:50,699
didn't he gave his information to them

1677
01:14:55,390 --> 01:14:53,400
and that's an important distinction well

1678
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:55,400
then his testimony

1679
01:15:00,669 --> 01:14:58,080
becomes less critical

1680
01:15:03,530 --> 01:15:00,679
you know if he's talking about stuff

1681
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:03,540
anything else Italian UFO crash out

1682
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,120
there but they have to make sure they

1683
01:15:09,729 --> 01:15:08,400
haven't been properly vetted it's mj-12

1684
01:15:14,689 --> 01:15:09,739
all over again

1685
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:14,699
don't know what he said we don't we've

1686
01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:18,000
we've seen yeah I mean

1687
01:15:21,950 --> 01:15:19,860
the last oh I mean I should have asked

1688
01:15:23,630 --> 01:15:21,960
Daniel you're right he's right at least

1689
01:15:27,490 --> 01:15:23,640
checked in with him and said is this

1690
01:15:32,689 --> 01:15:30,649
and I of course

1691
01:15:34,189 --> 01:15:32,699
analyze it on the blog but nobody was

1692
01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:34,199
really talking about

1693
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:38,040
UFOs they were talking about Martin Mr

1694
01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:41,760
Willis I should say you know to be very

1695
01:15:46,010 --> 01:15:43,800
honest with you

1696
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,020
uh I get that you get slightly more

1697
01:15:51,229 --> 01:15:49,199
views than me however I think that this

1698
01:15:53,209 --> 01:15:51,239
is very very important and so I

1699
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:53,219
apologize for not I should have reached

1700
01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:54,480
out to you that would have been a kind

1701
01:15:58,610 --> 01:15:56,760
courtesy that I should have done and I'm

1702
01:16:00,590 --> 01:15:58,620
not giving excuses but I have two

1703
01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:00,600
children home one of which is special

1704
01:16:05,570 --> 01:16:03,239
needs for the summer usually I shoot

1705
01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:05,580
somebody an email and say hey uh and I

1706
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:07,020
send them the thumbnail and say hey I'm

1707
01:16:10,430 --> 01:16:08,400
going to do commentary and talk about

1708
01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:10,440
this is that okay and I've never had

1709
01:16:16,970 --> 01:16:12,840
somebody say no I should have so I

1710
01:16:20,030 --> 01:16:16,980
apologize uh but it is fair use so and

1711
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,040
also I'd really just think that I have a

1712
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,080
much different audience than you and I

1713
01:16:25,310 --> 01:16:23,760
think that what Mr Randall was saying

1714
01:16:27,169 --> 01:16:25,320
during this interview is extremely

1715
01:16:29,630 --> 01:16:27,179
important given that he is one of the

1716
01:16:33,470 --> 01:16:29,640
world's leading experts on UFO crash

1717
01:16:35,630 --> 01:16:33,480
retrieval programs so I I thought it was

1718
01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:35,640
important that more people hear this and

1719
01:16:39,649 --> 01:16:38,100
and I I'm not trying to you know take

1720
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:39,659
content from somebody I'm trying to

1721
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:43,440
amplify the information that you kindly

1722
01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:45,440
present send it to everybody

1723
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:48,300
I've been to some of your live chats you

1724
01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:50,219
you have a completely different audience

1725
01:16:57,169 --> 01:16:54,120
than than I generally do and I believe

1726
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,179
that you know we've got a 200 live

1727
01:17:03,229 --> 01:16:59,760
viewers right now watching this uh

1728
01:17:04,189 --> 01:17:03,239
there'll be thousands more views after

1729
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:04,199
this

1730
01:17:09,229 --> 01:17:07,440
I put in the link to to uh in the

1731
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:09,239
description of this video a link to your

1732
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,800
full interview and channel I would

1733
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,239
highly recommend if people are

1734
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:14,880
interested in any of these topics

1735
01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:18,719
um to go and and support uh you know

1736
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:20,100
your show

1737
01:17:25,790 --> 01:17:22,980
you have some big guests uh that we

1738
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:25,800
don't generally get here so you know I

1739
01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:28,400
apologize and and I hope that we're okay

1740
01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:32,340
uh you know uh it was an oversight on my

1741
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:34,140
part and and you know what

1742
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:37,199
in the future I will I will take the

1743
01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:39,540
time to always you should you should

1744
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,640
take the time to send it now there are

1745
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:43,440
some people that I have a relationship

1746
01:17:49,370 --> 01:17:47,280
with and show hosts and and miss Mr

1747
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,380
Willis is not one of them but I have

1748
01:17:53,450 --> 01:17:51,600
people that they know they can use

1749
01:17:55,070 --> 01:17:53,460
anything from my show and I know that I

1750
01:17:57,470 --> 01:17:55,080
can use anything so I should have

1751
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:57,480
reached out to you and apologize so I

1752
01:18:04,130 --> 01:18:01,920
apologize uh for not doing so and uh I'd

1753
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:04,140
like to have you here as a guest on the

1754
01:18:08,330 --> 01:18:06,480
on the show I I would kindly offer to be

1755
01:18:11,209 --> 01:18:08,340
a guest on your show whenever you would

1756
01:18:14,570 --> 01:18:11,219
like to do that we have a lot of uh

1757
01:18:17,810 --> 01:18:14,580
friends in common I'm sure

1758
01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:20,330
yeah and and here we have our moderators

1759
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:22,620
are all encouraging our audience here to

1760
01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:25,320
go check out your show so maybe we can

1761
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:27,420
take this as a learning lesson and and

1762
01:18:34,430 --> 01:18:32,750
we could both benefit Logistics of

1763
01:18:36,430 --> 01:18:34,440
studying UFOs

1764
01:18:38,930 --> 01:18:36,440
they were talking about a lot of stuff

1765
01:18:40,910 --> 01:18:38,940
but we didn't get any meat and then I

1766
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,920
watched the stupid NASA briefing

1767
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:42,480
briefing that went on forever in a week

1768
01:18:46,930 --> 01:18:44,580
yeah I think so too eventually went on

1769
01:18:49,490 --> 01:18:46,940
endlessly and we got nothing there

1770
01:18:51,410 --> 01:18:49,500
so you're looking at that so he's

1771
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:51,420
testified to Congress for 11 hours but

1772
01:18:54,770 --> 01:18:53,460
we don't know what he said we need the

1773
01:18:56,110 --> 01:18:54,780
transcripts we need to know what he said

1774
01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:56,120
so we can take a look at the information

1775
01:19:01,010 --> 01:18:58,800
when they had the first briefing the the

1776
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,020
two guys from the Department of Navy

1777
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:03,120
whose name I agree because they were so

1778
01:19:07,790 --> 01:19:05,340
inconsequential I refuse to remember

1779
01:19:10,130 --> 01:19:07,800
them but they were talking about yeah

1780
01:19:12,770 --> 01:19:10,140
hold on I'll put it in the it was the

1781
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:12,780
first briefing I'll put a link to Mr

1782
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:14,280
Willis Channel

1783
01:19:20,030 --> 01:19:17,520
in the in the description of or excuse

1784
01:19:25,310 --> 01:19:20,040
me into the live chat so hold on one

1785
01:19:30,110 --> 01:19:27,229
he sent me an email said didn't mean to

1786
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:30,120
cause such a Ruckus okay so look we're

1787
01:19:37,490 --> 01:19:33,780
okay and and uh I I apologize I

1788
01:19:42,890 --> 01:19:40,370
crazy day

1789
01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:42,900
yeah and again I'm not giving excuses

1790
01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:44,460
but I have two children at home one of

1791
01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:46,140
which is special needs and he just had

1792
01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:48,300
dental surgery and so he was a nightmare

1793
01:19:52,250 --> 01:19:50,820
to a little bit of a nightmare and uh

1794
01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:52,260
yeah but I learned a lesson which is

1795
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,360
that I really should do that so uh and

1796
01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:55,920
I'm putting the uh

1797
01:20:02,689 --> 01:19:58,980
one second here I'm gonna put the link

1798
01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:02,699
to Mr Willis's channel in right into the

1799
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,260
live chat you should go and check out

1800
01:20:08,090 --> 01:20:06,239
his channel he's got a lot of big

1801
01:20:10,189 --> 01:20:08,100
interviews that you know with guests I

1802
01:20:13,390 --> 01:20:10,199
wish I could get

1803
01:20:16,490 --> 01:20:13,400
so uh hold on one second

1804
01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:16,500
uh okay

1805
01:20:21,229 --> 01:20:18,780
one second

1806
01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:21,239
let me get to the channel and it's just

1807
01:20:26,570 --> 01:20:24,900
called podcast UFO live shows uh and

1808
01:20:29,209 --> 01:20:26,580
he's been at this a lot longer than me

1809
01:20:33,229 --> 01:20:29,219
for sure uh but let me get over to the

1810
01:20:35,689 --> 01:20:33,239
live chat and uh I will put a link to Mr

1811
01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:35,699
Willis channel in the description of the

1812
01:20:40,370 --> 01:20:38,640
video with my apologies here let me go

1813
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,380
over and do that right now I have to do

1814
01:20:45,470 --> 01:20:42,239
it in the YouTube live chat so please

1815
01:20:47,090 --> 01:20:45,480
just bear with me for a moment

1816
01:20:50,689 --> 01:20:47,100
uh

1817
01:20:54,169 --> 01:20:50,699
one second and I'll pin it too link to

1818
01:20:54,179 --> 01:20:57,590
podcasts

1819
01:21:03,229 --> 01:21:00,950
and I will pin that in the live chat so

1820
01:21:06,770 --> 01:21:03,239
everybody can oh wait a minute it helps

1821
01:21:06,780 --> 01:21:12,350
Link in one second

1822
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:14,270
they're with me friends

1823
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:16,880
uh one second podcast UFO

1824
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:18,420
[Applause]

1825
01:21:23,330 --> 01:21:19,760
panel

1826
01:21:27,790 --> 01:21:23,340
uh and there's the link

1827
01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:27,800
and I will pin that in the description

1828
01:21:33,410 --> 01:21:31,080
so it's now pinned in the live chat and

1829
01:21:35,169 --> 01:21:33,420
again my apologies I I will speak to you

1830
01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:35,179
after the library

1831
01:21:40,490 --> 01:21:37,560
you didn't see nothing they presented a

1832
01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:40,500
couple of useless videos and talked

1833
01:21:43,729 --> 01:21:41,760
around this whole thing one of the

1834
01:21:45,649 --> 01:21:43,739
senators or one of the congressmen

1835
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,659
asked him about Mouse from Air Force

1836
01:21:48,910 --> 01:21:47,280
Base where the missiles were shut down

1837
01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:48,920
in 1969

1838
01:21:53,209 --> 01:21:51,060
and the guy actually said well we don't

1839
01:21:54,890 --> 01:21:53,219
know anything about that and later on we

1840
01:22:00,430 --> 01:21:54,900
admitted that he did know something

1841
01:22:07,010 --> 01:22:04,189
what struck me was at least one of the

1842
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:07,020
people questioning the witnesses knew a

1843
01:22:11,450 --> 01:22:08,580
little bit about the topic

1844
01:22:13,310 --> 01:22:11,460
and uh they kind of meal him out their

1845
01:22:15,729 --> 01:22:13,320
way around that but I think the

1846
01:22:20,090 --> 01:22:15,739
Maelstrom thing is important

1847
01:22:21,709 --> 01:22:20,100
because of um the connection to UFOs

1848
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:21,719
because when the missiles were shut down

1849
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:23,520
at Maelstrom Air Force Base it was also

1850
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:25,320
UFO sightings going on in the Belt

1851
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,080
Montana area melstrom's in in that area

1852
01:22:32,750 --> 01:22:30,719
they're they're yeah Maelstrom is a case

1853
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:32,760
that many of you have asked me to cover

1854
01:22:37,610 --> 01:22:36,000
or to do a show on and it's been on my

1855
01:22:40,189 --> 01:22:37,620
list for quite some time simple fields

1856
01:22:41,810 --> 01:22:40,199
are what over 100 square miles I mean

1857
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:41,820
scattered all over the

1858
01:22:47,530 --> 01:22:44,000
Montana Countryside

1859
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,540
and and when the Condon committee

1860
01:22:51,950 --> 01:22:49,800
investigator went to Maelstrom to talk

1861
01:22:54,530 --> 01:22:51,960
about this and asked about the missile

1862
01:22:55,550 --> 01:22:54,540
shutdown the um UFO officers I can't

1863
01:22:58,010 --> 01:22:55,560
tell you about that it's National

1864
01:22:59,689 --> 01:22:58,020
Security which if you've got an outside

1865
01:23:01,610 --> 01:22:59,699
force capable of shutting down the

1866
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:01,620
missiles yeah that's National Security

1867
01:23:06,169 --> 01:23:04,560
I'll agree with that point I guess but

1868
01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:06,179
we don't know what he said during those

1869
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:08,940
11 hours and we we saw the interview

1870
01:23:14,030 --> 01:23:11,040
okay good thank you

1871
01:23:15,709 --> 01:23:14,040
is it news Nation yes news Nation

1872
01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:15,719
because there's another new one called

1873
01:23:22,189 --> 01:23:19,620
Newsmax and there's the link here

1874
01:23:24,890 --> 01:23:22,199
yeah sells Newsmax

1875
01:23:27,530 --> 01:23:24,900
um but but the point is we got no real

1876
01:23:30,350 --> 01:23:27,540
details there other than the

1877
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:30,360
talking about this nineteen

1878
01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:33,840
of 33 UFO cracks but we got no real

1879
01:23:37,130 --> 01:23:35,640
details we got nothing there we don't

1880
01:23:39,470 --> 01:23:37,140
know who he's talking to we don't know

1881
01:23:42,050 --> 01:23:39,480
what crashes he's talking about

1882
01:23:44,689 --> 01:23:42,060
yeah and that's a problem because

1883
01:23:47,209 --> 01:23:44,699
you know so far he's mentioned one crash

1884
01:23:49,070 --> 01:23:47,219
case which turned out to be a hoax

1885
01:23:52,850 --> 01:23:49,080
how do we know that the rest of the

1886
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:52,860
cases that he is uh you know claiming or

1887
01:23:58,910 --> 01:23:56,159
real are are real cases and not also

1888
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,920
hoaxes this is a really big red flag to

1889
01:24:02,270 --> 01:24:00,960
me you know I speculate you may have

1890
01:24:05,570 --> 01:24:02,280
been talking about Aztec there's

1891
01:24:08,450 --> 01:24:05,580
documentation FBI documents

1892
01:24:10,610 --> 01:24:08,460
talking about the the Aztec UFO crash

1893
01:24:13,070 --> 01:24:10,620
we're crying out and that was a hoax

1894
01:24:15,950 --> 01:24:13,080
there's that FBI memo that Hoover wrote

1895
01:24:18,530 --> 01:24:15,960
in his handwriting um talking about the

1896
01:24:21,890 --> 01:24:18,540
the it's probably the Shreveport

1897
01:24:25,370 --> 01:24:21,900
Louisiana crash of

1898
01:24:28,189 --> 01:24:25,380
late June of night June or July of 1947.

1899
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,199
yeah so it's important to note that that

1900
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:30,960
documents of real government documents

1901
01:24:36,110 --> 01:24:34,140
exist about a great many UFO crash cases

1902
01:24:39,290 --> 01:24:36,120
that turn out to be completely and

1903
01:24:40,850 --> 01:24:39,300
totally fake stories just because there

1904
01:24:42,530 --> 01:24:40,860
are government I think we have to be

1905
01:24:44,450 --> 01:24:42,540
very cautious here just because they're

1906
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:44,460
a government documents

1907
01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:47,520
about a UFO crash doesn't mean that an

1908
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,760
actual UFO crash actually happened it

1909
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:52,800
doesn't mean that it means there's some

1910
01:24:58,610 --> 01:24:55,679
documents you have to fully investigate

1911
01:25:01,970 --> 01:24:58,620
each case of so-called UFO crashes

1912
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,980
before you are in you know fully

1913
01:25:06,290 --> 01:25:03,120
informed

1914
01:25:08,570 --> 01:25:06,300
and My worry is that this poor guy got

1915
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:08,580
fed a bunch of stories that we've all

1916
01:25:15,709 --> 01:25:12,000
heard before like Aztec or uh Cape

1917
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:15,719
Girardeau or God forbid the Trinity UFO

1918
01:25:20,990 --> 01:25:17,699
crash case that just came crashing down

1919
01:25:23,689 --> 01:25:21,000
as a fake there is a lot of UFO crash

1920
01:25:28,430 --> 01:25:23,699
retrieval cases that are fake and by the

1921
01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:28,440
way we did a history uh not so brief

1922
01:25:33,470 --> 01:25:30,840
history of UFO whistleblowers it was

1923
01:25:35,090 --> 01:25:33,480
actually I called it a brief history and

1924
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:35,100
then somebody people kept sending me

1925
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:36,960
messages go it's almost three hours long

1926
01:25:42,649 --> 01:25:39,719
Stephen so I changed it to a not so

1927
01:25:44,630 --> 01:25:42,659
brief history of UFO whistleblowers

1928
01:25:46,850 --> 01:25:44,640
because I wanted to show that there's

1929
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:46,860
been a long list of so-called UFO

1930
01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:49,679
whistleblowers that were not who they

1931
01:25:53,450 --> 01:25:51,480
pretended to be and they never came

1932
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,460
through with the evidence and I think

1933
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:55,199
that's extremely important and we have

1934
01:26:00,169 --> 01:25:57,120
to keep that in mind when evaluating the

1935
01:26:02,330 --> 01:26:00,179
claims of this new whistleblower equally

1936
01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:02,340
important I think that we need to know

1937
01:26:07,490 --> 01:26:04,920
you need to know that there is a great

1938
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:07,500
history of completely and totally fake

1939
01:26:12,649 --> 01:26:10,380
UFO crash cases that were hoaxes and

1940
01:26:14,510 --> 01:26:12,659
attempts to make money and all these

1941
01:26:16,970 --> 01:26:14,520
different things so I'll be doing a not

1942
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:16,980
so brief history of the UFO crash

1943
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,400
retrievals uh UFO crashes and retrieval

1944
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:23,520
cases and and whoever writes uh by which

1945
01:26:28,370 --> 01:26:26,520
the the military is asking the FBI for

1946
01:26:32,209 --> 01:26:28,380
help and vetting the witnesses

1947
01:26:33,890 --> 01:26:32,219
and Clyde Tolson put on the memo yeah we

1948
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,900
should do this we should do that and

1949
01:26:38,810 --> 01:26:36,000
Hoover was agreeing with us yeah but the

1950
01:26:41,629 --> 01:26:38,820
Army has to um agree to let us act give

1951
01:26:45,229 --> 01:26:41,639
us access to disrecovered in the this SW

1952
01:26:47,330 --> 01:26:45,239
I think SW case I think it's the LA case

1953
01:26:49,970 --> 01:26:47,340
his writing is so bad you can interpret

1954
01:26:51,890 --> 01:26:49,980
it like 14 different ways but he was

1955
01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:51,900
referring to Shreveport so we've got a

1956
01:26:56,030 --> 01:26:53,880
document talking about a crash that you

1957
01:26:58,430 --> 01:26:56,040
could interpret that says SW for

1958
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:58,440
Southwest meaning the Roswell case but

1959
01:27:01,729 --> 01:27:00,000
it really doesn't mean that but we've

1960
01:27:03,649 --> 01:27:01,739
got all those kinds of problems and we

1961
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,659
have to see the documents we have to see

1962
01:27:07,010 --> 01:27:06,000
the evidence yeah I agree with Mr

1963
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,020
Randall

1964
01:27:11,870 --> 01:27:10,080
for all we know this guy has got

1965
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:11,880
documents that are on the black

1966
01:27:17,090 --> 01:27:15,600
vault.com or on Above Top Secret and he

1967
01:27:18,530 --> 01:27:17,100
thinks they're classified maybe they're

1968
01:27:20,570 --> 01:27:18,540
marked classified there's so many

1969
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:20,580
questions here about this guy have to

1970
01:27:24,410 --> 01:27:22,080
know who he was talking to we have to

1971
01:27:26,689 --> 01:27:24,420
know we have to cite the sources and if

1972
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,699
you can't do that then you're doing us

1973
01:27:32,050 --> 01:27:29,040
no good

1974
01:27:34,610 --> 01:27:32,060
right right let me uh let's move on to

1975
01:27:37,970 --> 01:27:34,620
this right here I would like to talk

1976
01:27:39,410 --> 01:27:37,980
about because this is uh interesting and

1977
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:39,420
I wanted to know what you thought about

1978
01:27:43,790 --> 01:27:42,480
it it's the uh let me let me get over to

1979
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:43,800
the right page

1980
01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:45,060
here

1981
01:27:49,729 --> 01:27:48,540
go

1982
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:49,739
um nope

1983
01:27:54,169 --> 01:27:51,920
I'm trying to scroll up on this thing

1984
01:27:56,990 --> 01:27:54,179
obviously Mr Willis believes all right

1985
01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:57,000
this was released by George Knapp

1986
01:28:02,330 --> 01:27:59,340
and uh this

1987
01:28:04,010 --> 01:28:02,340
George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell this is

1988
01:28:05,390 --> 01:28:04,020
a Canadian document

1989
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,400
and

1990
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:08,159
have you have read this over what do you

1991
01:28:11,570 --> 01:28:08,940
think

1992
01:28:14,510 --> 01:28:11,580
yeah this will be interesting and some

1993
01:28:16,910 --> 01:28:14,520
people including uh Mr Willis may not be

1994
01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:16,920
aware but I correctly reported on June

1995
01:28:23,330 --> 01:28:20,940
7th that Dave gresh Gary Nolan and Rose

1996
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:23,340
goldthorpe met with Canadian members of

1997
01:28:29,689 --> 01:28:26,880
parliament including Larry McGuire and

1998
01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:29,699
uh just a little while later we get this

1999
01:28:34,250 --> 01:28:31,860
letter from Larry McGuire

2000
01:28:37,370 --> 01:28:34,260
it really doesn't tell us anything there

2001
01:28:39,530 --> 01:28:37,380
you go I know but it is the same kind of

2002
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:39,540
thing we've seen time and time again he

2003
01:28:45,410 --> 01:28:42,480
refers to this uh evidence from 1950.

2004
01:28:47,209 --> 01:28:45,420
he's just a Wilbur Smith stuff that uh

2005
01:28:49,129 --> 01:28:47,219
Robert sawbacher was talking about two

2006
01:28:52,129 --> 01:28:49,139
decades ago a quarter of a century ago

2007
01:28:54,590 --> 01:28:52,139
is that what he's referring to there's

2008
01:28:56,330 --> 01:28:54,600
nothing in there that really gets gives

2009
01:28:58,010 --> 01:28:56,340
us any meat is some guy worried about

2010
01:29:15,590 --> 01:28:58,020
the

2011
01:29:17,209 --> 01:29:15,600
and so we've got this sort of thing you

2012
01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:17,219
read the document but there's really no

2013
01:29:22,250 --> 01:29:19,139
meat to it it talks yeah well there is

2014
01:29:24,169 --> 01:29:22,260
meat to it he talks about uh

2015
01:29:26,570 --> 01:29:24,179
I believe that this letter is

2016
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:26,580
referencing Wilbert Smith who was kind

2017
01:29:32,570 --> 01:29:30,420
of a Canadian UFO Wackadoo who among

2018
01:29:36,649 --> 01:29:32,580
other things communicate it with aliens

2019
01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:36,659
from Saturn and Venus from his backyard

2020
01:29:42,890 --> 01:29:40,260
um you know so this is this letter to me

2021
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:42,900
is a huge nothing Burger but it was

2022
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,880
hyped up by Jeremy Corbell and George

2023
01:29:49,129 --> 01:29:47,280
Knapp as as a big bombshell something

2024
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:49,139
hugely important they also pretended

2025
01:29:55,129 --> 01:29:52,080
that they got ex we're exclusive we're

2026
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:55,139
ex we're releasing a new document we've

2027
01:29:59,689 --> 01:29:57,360
got the exclusive the document was out

2028
01:30:02,510 --> 01:29:59,699
for weeks before corbel and George Knapp

2029
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:02,520
used it or posted it talks about this

2030
01:30:07,250 --> 01:30:05,760
1950 stuff and I'm wondering and if you

2031
01:30:10,669 --> 01:30:07,260
have to remember Wilbur Smith was a

2032
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:10,679
Canadian scientist yes supposedly was

2033
01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,719
involved it said something to Robert

2034
01:30:18,410 --> 01:30:14,639
sawbacher and sawbucker talked about

2035
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:18,420
that but Smith was long gone before we

2036
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,159
got that information from sawbanker and

2037
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:21,840
it turns out sawbucker didn't see or

2038
01:30:26,750 --> 01:30:23,520
hear anything himself

2039
01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:26,760
and so it's second-handed yeah Wilbert

2040
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:29,340
Smith is just repeating stories from

2041
01:30:36,530 --> 01:30:30,719
sarbacher

2042
01:30:38,990 --> 01:30:36,540
or heard anything himself so again we've

2043
01:30:41,390 --> 01:30:39,000
got second-hand accounts of UFO crashes

2044
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:41,400
and things this is their proof

2045
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:44,400
apparently you know it's very weak it's

2046
01:30:50,030 --> 01:30:47,040
it's like skating on very thin ice

2047
01:30:51,890 --> 01:30:50,040
information it doesn't do us any good in

2048
01:30:53,870 --> 01:30:51,900
reading that letter he really doesn't

2049
01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:53,880
give us any specifics and it's not a

2050
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:56,400
classified letter anyway right if there

2051
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:57,840
were specifics in it that may have been

2052
01:31:02,990 --> 01:30:59,760
yeah for once yeah I'm just saying well

2053
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:03,000
we need to eat he's urging the um with

2054
01:31:08,330 --> 01:31:04,800
the defense minister

2055
01:31:09,169 --> 01:31:08,340
to um take a look at this stuff just in

2056
01:31:11,330 --> 01:31:09,179
case

2057
01:31:13,610 --> 01:31:11,340
because he doesn't want the Canadian

2058
01:31:16,490 --> 01:31:13,620
government to offend

2059
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:16,500
I agree Patty they're Partners in the um

2060
01:31:20,930 --> 01:31:18,719
in the world we of course being

2061
01:31:23,629 --> 01:31:20,940
Americans one of those partners

2062
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:23,639
why would my I would want to offend the

2063
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:24,719
Australians because they have all those

2064
01:31:28,810 --> 01:31:26,880
nasty creatures that just can kill you

2065
01:31:32,030 --> 01:31:28,820
in an instant

2066
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:32,040
nothing's now here the question I have

2067
01:31:36,649 --> 01:31:34,800
though is why would this person what

2068
01:31:37,490 --> 01:31:36,659
would be the purpose to write this if it

2069
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:37,500
wasn't

2070
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:42,000
something of concern yes obviously it's

2071
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:43,500
something of concern but we don't know

2072
01:31:48,410 --> 01:31:45,960
what information he has to cause that

2073
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:48,420
concern other than what we all have at

2074
01:31:52,129 --> 01:31:49,920
the moment and that part of that was The

2075
01:31:55,550 --> 01:31:52,139
Whistleblower coming forward and getting

2076
01:31:57,530 --> 01:31:55,560
this this uh having multiple platforms

2077
01:31:59,689 --> 01:31:57,540
to talk about this yeah he does great

2078
01:32:01,430 --> 01:31:59,699
work you get to and he talks about this

2079
01:32:03,890 --> 01:32:01,440
night that was caught my attention with

2080
01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:03,900
this reference to the 1950s stuff

2081
01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:06,000
then I began to think you know what was

2082
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:08,760
going on in 19. thanks for explaining

2083
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:15,910
right pardon me Wilbert Smith Wilbert

2084
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:19,440
yeah not Wilbur yeah yeah I make that

2085
01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:28,790
no it's it

2086
01:32:32,510 --> 01:32:30,900
my God I have it written down on my Note

2087
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:32,520
Wilbur

2088
01:32:35,870 --> 01:32:34,320
Smith

2089
01:32:37,970 --> 01:32:35,880
I forget his name and I've got it

2090
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:37,980
written down

2091
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:40,560
but but we got the information from

2092
01:32:44,510 --> 01:32:42,480
sabacher sawbacher didn't know anything

2093
01:32:46,189 --> 01:32:44,520
himself talking about how the government

2094
01:32:47,629 --> 01:32:46,199
was involved in this investigation and

2095
01:32:49,189 --> 01:32:47,639
doing reverse engineering and all this

2096
01:32:51,290 --> 01:32:49,199
stuff and when you pin saw blocker down

2097
01:32:53,149 --> 01:32:51,300
I think Jerry Clark Bend him down I

2098
01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:53,159
think uh Stephen Friedman tried to pin

2099
01:32:57,950 --> 01:32:55,679
him down I think um what William

2100
01:33:00,530 --> 01:32:57,960
Steinman got the original uh information

2101
01:33:02,090 --> 01:33:00,540
from him tried to pin him down yeah

2102
01:33:03,169 --> 01:33:02,100
that's surprising right so he was

2103
01:33:05,209 --> 01:33:03,179
telling him well he'd heard this stuff

2104
01:33:07,129 --> 01:33:05,219
he'd heard this stuff but it turns out

2105
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,139
that's all he didn't attend the meetings

2106
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:09,600
where the stuff was discussed he wasn't

2107
01:33:14,570 --> 01:33:11,040
in the meetings he heard it from other

2108
01:33:17,390 --> 01:33:14,580
people yeah so so in essence you know

2109
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:17,400
it's so Robert sawbacher heard about

2110
01:33:24,649 --> 01:33:20,280
UFOs and crash retrievals and things of

2111
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:24,659
that nature and he uh mentions this to

2112
01:33:29,629 --> 01:33:27,840
Wilbert Smith so Wilbert Smith is

2113
01:33:32,149 --> 01:33:29,639
repeating that's like third hand

2114
01:33:34,810 --> 01:33:32,159
accounts well somebody told me that they

2115
01:33:37,370 --> 01:33:34,820
heard about it you know

2116
01:33:39,890 --> 01:33:37,380
that the problem with all of this is

2117
01:33:42,050 --> 01:33:39,900
sourcing you have to get as close to the

2118
01:33:44,030 --> 01:33:42,060
original source as possible in order to

2119
01:33:46,129 --> 01:33:44,040
be effective with information

2120
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:46,139
if you're going on a third hand account

2121
01:33:50,570 --> 01:33:48,000
of a story

2122
01:33:52,430 --> 01:33:50,580
you know think about that old phone game

2123
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:52,440
when you were a child by the time you

2124
01:33:57,010 --> 01:33:53,820
get to the third person the story

2125
01:33:59,689 --> 01:33:57,020
changes significantly doesn't it so

2126
01:34:02,209 --> 01:33:59,699
there's no evidence here there's no meat

2127
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:02,219
on the bones here this is all and

2128
01:34:06,290 --> 01:34:04,440
Wilbert Smith I'm sorry I'm not going to

2129
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:06,300
argue with people will anybody who's

2130
01:34:10,250 --> 01:34:08,159
telling people they're telepathically

2131
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:10,260
communicating with aliens from Saturn

2132
01:34:15,950 --> 01:34:13,440
and Venus from their backyard is not to

2133
01:34:18,830 --> 01:34:15,960
me a credible source of information I'm

2134
01:34:21,110 --> 01:34:18,840
sorry I even had people arguing with me

2135
01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:21,120
on Twitter how do you know that he

2136
01:34:24,410 --> 01:34:22,560
didn't communicate with aliens from

2137
01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:24,420
Saturn and Venus or I don't know maybe

2138
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:25,679
you should look up this

2139
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:27,840
average surface temperature of those

2140
01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:30,960
planets and then get back to me with how

2141
01:34:34,370 --> 01:34:32,760
he's communicating with beings from

2142
01:34:36,830 --> 01:34:34,380
those planets that are completely and

2143
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:36,840
totally lifeless and uninhabitable

2144
01:34:43,610 --> 01:34:40,260
as far as we know second hand it

2145
01:34:44,689 --> 01:34:43,620
third hand third hand and

2146
01:34:46,850 --> 01:34:44,699
here's

2147
01:34:49,070 --> 01:34:46,860
the same boat I mean we've talked to

2148
01:34:51,050 --> 01:34:49,080
people who were there in the Roswell

2149
01:34:52,910 --> 01:34:51,060
case I any number of people who were

2150
01:34:54,410 --> 01:34:52,920
involved in the Roswell recovery we've

2151
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:54,420
talked to so we're now secondhand

2152
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:56,159
witnesses to that stuff

2153
01:35:00,129 --> 01:34:58,080
which is not a way to add to my

2154
01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:00,139
credibility but to merely

2155
01:35:06,590 --> 01:35:03,360
at least Mr Randall admits that that's a

2156
01:35:08,450 --> 01:35:06,600
little wonky right you know that we have

2157
01:35:12,410 --> 01:35:08,460
been able to

2158
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:12,420
talk to people who are involved on a you

2159
01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:15,360
know one-to-one basis uh as an example

2160
01:35:20,090 --> 01:35:18,239
we've we've got the sheriff Wilcox and

2161
01:35:22,189 --> 01:35:20,100
Roswell well we never talked to him we

2162
01:35:24,530 --> 01:35:22,199
talked to his daughter so when we talked

2163
01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:24,540
to the daughter that becomes

2164
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:27,060
she was secondhand we're third hand but

2165
01:35:31,070 --> 01:35:29,040
the daughter

2166
01:35:32,570 --> 01:35:31,080
um yeah third-hand accounts are not

2167
01:35:34,610 --> 01:35:32,580
quite as good as firsthand now Elizabeth

2168
01:35:36,530 --> 01:35:34,620
talk it's the other one

2169
01:35:38,209 --> 01:35:36,540
whose name I cannot remember at the

2170
01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:38,219
moment geez it's what happens when you

2171
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,040
get old your brain melts yeah

2172
01:35:45,770 --> 01:35:43,920
McGuire McGuire

2173
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:45,780
um she was in the office when Brazil

2174
01:35:49,129 --> 01:35:47,280
showed up

2175
01:35:51,169 --> 01:35:49,139
so she could talk about what she had

2176
01:35:52,910 --> 01:35:51,179
seen in the office yeah and then other

2177
01:35:55,490 --> 01:35:52,920
stuff she heard later but yeah and Mr

2178
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,500
Randall and and some of his friends like

2179
01:36:00,169 --> 01:35:58,080
Don Schmidt and Tom Kerry have talked to

2180
01:36:03,890 --> 01:36:00,179
more firsthand Witnesses from Roswell

2181
01:36:06,110 --> 01:36:03,900
than virtually anybody on the planet so

2182
01:36:07,490 --> 01:36:06,120
um you know she became second hand and

2183
01:36:10,970 --> 01:36:07,500
she became firsthand and we talking to

2184
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:10,980
her we became secondhand Witnesses right

2185
01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:14,880
um but but with subacher he's at best a

2186
01:36:18,410 --> 01:36:16,260
second-hand witness and maybe a

2187
01:36:20,750 --> 01:36:18,420
third-hand witness and it's and it's

2188
01:36:23,870 --> 01:36:20,760
Wilbur Smith I can't believe I wrote it

2189
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:24,590
um

2190
01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:26,159
so

2191
01:36:30,050 --> 01:36:28,320
I I worry that that's the reference and

2192
01:36:32,629 --> 01:36:30,060
he's gotten hold of some of that old

2193
01:36:33,649 --> 01:36:32,639
information that's come up and we have

2194
01:36:35,209 --> 01:36:33,659
to

2195
01:36:37,129 --> 01:36:35,219
um

2196
01:36:38,330 --> 01:36:37,139
we have to we have to remember that sort

2197
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:38,340
of thing but there's nothing in the

2198
01:36:41,689 --> 01:36:40,320
letter yeah there is nothing in this

2199
01:36:44,090 --> 01:36:41,699
letter it really corroborates anything

2200
01:36:45,770 --> 01:36:44,100
yeah there's no corroboration there and

2201
01:36:49,970 --> 01:36:45,780
also troubling to me with this whole

2202
01:36:53,390 --> 01:36:49,980
Rush story is that so far All We Got Is

2203
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:53,400
recycled old UFO information that has

2204
01:36:59,149 --> 01:36:56,159
been out there in The Ether for you know

2205
01:37:00,590 --> 01:36:59,159
in some cases 20 or more years these

2206
01:37:03,890 --> 01:37:00,600
stories of Wilbert Smith have been

2207
01:37:06,410 --> 01:37:03,900
around for 20 or 30 years I believe I'm

2208
01:37:09,649 --> 01:37:06,420
not sure but at least 20 or more years

2209
01:37:12,350 --> 01:37:09,659
this story of the Italian UFO crash was

2210
01:37:14,030 --> 01:37:12,360
also out in The Ether so all we've

2211
01:37:17,770 --> 01:37:14,040
gotten from this so-called UFO

2212
01:37:21,649 --> 01:37:17,780
whistleblower so far and and the people

2213
01:37:24,290 --> 01:37:21,659
people are pumping this Canadian Member

2214
01:37:26,450 --> 01:37:24,300
of Parliament as some kind of proof of

2215
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:26,460
his claims while he's only providing

2216
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,679
some Wackadoo from the 1950s case so

2217
01:37:36,189 --> 01:37:34,080
we've got two ancient UFO cases that

2218
01:37:38,689 --> 01:37:36,199
have been out there in The Ether forever

2219
01:37:40,129 --> 01:37:38,699
accompanying this so-called UFO

2220
01:37:42,169 --> 01:37:40,139
whistleblower

2221
01:37:44,450 --> 01:37:42,179
if he's blowing the whistle he's doing a

2222
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,460
terrible job of it because we there's no

2223
01:37:49,970 --> 01:37:46,560
new information from him so far it's

2224
01:37:52,430 --> 01:37:49,980
recycled old UFO cases one of which is a

2225
01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:52,440
proven Oaks and one of which came from a

2226
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,360
wackadoo who was telling third hand

2227
01:37:59,209 --> 01:37:56,159
stories

2228
01:38:01,129 --> 01:37:59,219
is concerned that there might be reverse

2229
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,139
engineering going on nothing about

2230
01:38:05,870 --> 01:38:03,360
really weaponization but reverse

2231
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:05,880
engineering going on and he's concerned

2232
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:07,679
that

2233
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:12,169
the other partners they transform into

2234
01:38:15,950 --> 01:38:13,520
flares

2235
01:38:17,570 --> 01:38:15,960
more than that but it's the Australians

2236
01:38:19,070 --> 01:38:17,580
the new zealands the Canadians the

2237
01:38:20,810 --> 01:38:19,080
British and the United States yeah

2238
01:38:22,490 --> 01:38:20,820
mostly gas just like the stories from

2239
01:38:24,110 --> 01:38:22,500
UFO wakadus thanks for being a member

2240
01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:24,120
ongoing research

2241
01:38:35,450 --> 01:38:32,330
not just purpose for the letter was to

2242
01:38:37,610 --> 01:38:35,460
warn to make sure that the

2243
01:38:40,430 --> 01:38:37,620
proper government officials in Canada

2244
01:38:43,850 --> 01:38:40,440
are aware yeah I could be right Randy

2245
01:38:47,810 --> 01:38:43,860
yeah well um I just want to say uh

2246
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:47,820
toodaloo to everyone over at kgra Radio

2247
01:38:50,810 --> 01:38:49,320
um we're going to continue on a little

2248
01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:50,820
bit because we have not talked about

2249
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:54,000
your book and that's the main reason you

2250
01:38:58,430 --> 01:38:55,920
actually that's another thing so thank

2251
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,440
you over at kgra radio and we'll see you

2252
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:00,960
next week with Mario woods and by the

2253
01:39:06,830 --> 01:39:03,600
way that uh will conclude his comments

2254
01:39:09,950 --> 01:39:06,840
on uh Mr David grush and the so-called

2255
01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:09,960
UFO whistleblower uh but Mr Randall has

2256
01:39:13,729 --> 01:39:11,760
a new book coming out I'm going to get

2257
01:39:16,669 --> 01:39:13,739
the book read the book and invite him

2258
01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:16,679
here to talk about the book and I would

2259
01:39:23,209 --> 01:39:19,739
highly encourage you I think I have

2260
01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:23,219
I don't know six or more of Mr Randall's

2261
01:39:28,129 --> 01:39:25,560
books and I thoroughly enjoyed each and

2262
01:39:30,169 --> 01:39:28,139
every one of them so I would encourage

2263
01:39:32,750 --> 01:39:30,179
you to support Mr Randall in his efforts

2264
01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:32,760
to do good research a lot of you ask me

2265
01:39:37,729 --> 01:39:35,460
I get asked all the time who's credible

2266
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:37,739
who who can you really trust that's not

2267
01:39:44,990 --> 01:39:40,800
a grifter or you know I I would count

2268
01:39:48,110 --> 01:39:45,000
definitely count Kevin Randall in in my

2269
01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:48,120
very small pool of people who I believe

2270
01:39:54,830 --> 01:39:50,880
are actually worthy of trust

2271
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,840
that do good evidence-based research and

2272
01:39:59,629 --> 01:39:56,400
you know

2273
01:40:01,910 --> 01:39:59,639
um he's one of the good guys to me so uh

2274
01:40:06,110 --> 01:40:01,920
you know support the good guys do not

2275
01:40:08,330 --> 01:40:06,120
support the people who are just selling

2276
01:40:10,910 --> 01:40:08,340
you fake stories and unfortunately the

2277
01:40:14,450 --> 01:40:10,920
UFO world is just completely and totally

2278
01:40:18,410 --> 01:40:14,460
overrun with people who are telling you

2279
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:18,420
fake stories it's it's kind of sad

2280
01:40:22,490 --> 01:40:19,920
really

2281
01:40:23,870 --> 01:40:22,500
a professional artists people are still

2282
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,880
talking about skinny Bob we're going to

2283
01:40:26,270 --> 01:40:24,960
do another show we're going to do a

2284
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,280
panel on this

2285
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:28,320
if uh professional artists were

2286
01:40:31,310 --> 01:40:30,239
responsible for skinny Bob it's hard to

2287
01:40:32,990 --> 01:40:31,320
understand that why they wouldn't

2288
01:40:35,930 --> 01:40:33,000
eventually come out and take credit for

2289
01:40:38,930 --> 01:40:35,940
this masterpiece yeah I I agree if it's

2290
01:40:41,149 --> 01:40:38,940
done by an artist it's it's so good

2291
01:40:42,890 --> 01:40:41,159
that you would think eventually they

2292
01:40:45,010 --> 01:40:42,900
would want to take credit because that

2293
01:40:48,350 --> 01:40:45,020
thing is just become a legend

2294
01:40:51,229 --> 01:40:48,360
the skinny Bob UFO alien it's pretty

2295
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:51,239
amazing the B Baker says Kevin Randall

2296
01:40:56,450 --> 01:40:53,520
is a gem yeah absolutely

2297
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:56,460
best book on the subject is UFOs and

2298
01:41:01,669 --> 01:40:59,040
government historical inquiry

2299
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:01,679
you may be right I have that book I

2300
01:41:04,669 --> 01:41:02,880
think it's great book I don't know if

2301
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:04,679
it's the best book but it's one of the

2302
01:41:09,530 --> 01:41:07,920
best for sure Patty Wilhelm there's a

2303
01:41:11,390 --> 01:41:09,540
generation that never heard the old

2304
01:41:14,750 --> 01:41:11,400
stories in grifter's count on that

2305
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:14,760
absolutely positively Patty I agree with

2306
01:41:20,030 --> 01:41:17,040
you and thank you for

2307
01:41:21,950 --> 01:41:20,040
uh for being a member estimate of the

2308
01:41:23,570 --> 01:41:21,960
situation at CGI you could tell from the

2309
01:41:24,649 --> 01:41:23,580
movements it's incredibly well done for

2310
01:41:27,470 --> 01:41:24,659
its time

2311
01:41:31,129 --> 01:41:27,480
well I mean I've done some CGI and I I

2312
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:31,139
I'm still hesitant to just say it's CGI

2313
01:41:44,750 --> 01:41:33,540
and

2314
01:41:47,209 --> 01:41:44,760
I estimate that if I had to build a

2315
01:41:50,750 --> 01:41:47,219
skinny Bob puppet and try to recreate

2316
01:41:52,609 --> 01:41:50,760
that it would cost me a months I it

2317
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:52,619
would take me months to build a puppet

2318
01:41:57,050 --> 01:41:55,440
that advance that life like and be able

2319
01:41:59,330 --> 01:41:57,060
to recreate it so I was kind of

2320
01:42:01,370 --> 01:41:59,340
convinced that it wasn't a puppet which

2321
01:42:02,570 --> 01:42:01,380
only leaves a few possibilities it's a

2322
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:02,580
real alien

2323
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:06,000
it's uh CGI or another possibility that

2324
01:42:09,530 --> 01:42:07,679
I thought of is that it could be a child

2325
01:42:12,530 --> 01:42:09,540
in prosthetics

2326
01:42:14,570 --> 01:42:12,540
and that would actually explain a lot a

2327
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:14,580
child in Prosthetics would explain a lot

2328
01:42:19,970 --> 01:42:18,600
and that's uh one explanation for skinny

2329
01:42:23,090 --> 01:42:19,980
Bob that I haven't heard anybody else

2330
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,100
raise could I do that with a child in

2331
01:42:27,649 --> 01:42:25,199
Prosthetics probably but I would have to

2332
01:42:29,810 --> 01:42:27,659
I would have to mold the child's face I

2333
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:29,820
would have to build custom Prosthetics

2334
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:36,000
including a headpiece eyepieces and more

2335
01:42:40,910 --> 01:42:37,440
um

2336
01:42:43,129 --> 01:42:40,920
custom everything would have to be built

2337
01:42:45,709 --> 01:42:43,139
you know latex Prosthetics would have to

2338
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:45,719
be custom built and adhered and you'd

2339
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:48,239
have to get a willing child or maybe a

2340
01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:50,159
little person

2341
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:54,000
um to cooperate with you to do that

2342
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:55,440
um

2343
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:57,960
yeah the context I that's what that's my

2344
01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:01,500
best guess 100 Prosthetics masks yeah

2345
01:43:05,330 --> 01:43:03,420
and the other thing is because there's

2346
01:43:07,370 --> 01:43:05,340
no point of reference in the video it

2347
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,380
doesn't have to be a child actually it

2348
01:43:12,430 --> 01:43:09,600
could be an adult and it and then it was

2349
01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:12,440
size to look smaller than a human

2350
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,000
through various methods like force

2351
01:43:20,270 --> 01:43:18,000
perspective and I don't know uh I'm

2352
01:43:23,149 --> 01:43:20,280
interested enough that maybe maybe

2353
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,159
someday I'll try to recreate it and

2354
01:43:27,649 --> 01:43:25,440
we'll do a whole new video of me trying

2355
01:43:31,010 --> 01:43:27,659
to recreate something as good as the

2356
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:31,020
skinny pop video and uh talking about

2357
01:43:36,350 --> 01:43:32,880
the original but it is strange to me

2358
01:43:38,209 --> 01:43:36,360
that if it was a hoax or it was created

2359
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:38,219
by an artist nobody's ever come forward

2360
01:43:44,570 --> 01:43:41,040
and said hey that was me now I've heard

2361
01:43:47,209 --> 01:43:44,580
rumors of who created it but I don't

2362
01:43:49,790 --> 01:43:47,219
want to say because uh

2363
01:43:53,149 --> 01:43:49,800
there's unconferred there's rumors are

2364
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,159
unconfirmed uh but the person that many

2365
01:43:58,129 --> 01:43:55,920
people say did it is an incredibly

2366
01:44:01,070 --> 01:43:58,139
talented CGI artist if anybody could

2367
01:44:02,990 --> 01:44:01,080
pull off this guy probably could

2368
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,000
um but I reached out to comment to that

2369
01:44:07,310 --> 01:44:05,280
person and he said people people have

2370
01:44:08,750 --> 01:44:07,320
been spreading rumors about me he was

2371
01:44:10,189 --> 01:44:08,760
very upset that people were saying that

2372
01:44:12,669 --> 01:44:10,199
he did that because he claimed he didn't

2373
01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:12,679
so I don't even want to mention his name

2374
01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:15,659
but maybe we'll do

2375
01:44:21,229 --> 01:44:18,900
um a separate uh you know we'll do a new

2376
01:44:23,149 --> 01:44:21,239
video we we talked about the skinny Bob

2377
01:44:25,850 --> 01:44:23,159
and by the way you can search in our

2378
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,860
archive go to the live Tab and hit that

2379
01:44:29,450 --> 01:44:27,360
little magnifying glass and just put

2380
01:44:31,129 --> 01:44:29,460
skinny Bob and you'll see the video that

2381
01:44:33,709 --> 01:44:31,139
we did on it quite honestly that video

2382
01:44:36,169 --> 01:44:33,719
leaves me stumped and the fact that I

2383
01:44:39,229 --> 01:44:36,179
have built you know some pretty Advanced

2384
01:44:41,810 --> 01:44:39,239
puppets and even puppets for film and TV

2385
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,820
I can't make a puppet like that so I was

2386
01:44:45,950 --> 01:44:43,679
convinced well I could but it would take

2387
01:44:49,310 --> 01:44:45,960
me a long long time to get something

2388
01:44:51,890 --> 01:44:49,320
that realistic and that good

2389
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:51,900
um could I do it yes but

2390
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,239
quite honestly that would really stretch

2391
01:44:59,570 --> 01:44:56,639
my ability and skills and

2392
01:45:01,790 --> 01:44:59,580
things to the absolute limit I'd really

2393
01:45:04,129 --> 01:45:01,800
have to reach to do to do something like

2394
01:45:07,010 --> 01:45:04,139
that with puppetry I've also done some

2395
01:45:09,410 --> 01:45:07,020
CGI but that's not really my specialty

2396
01:45:12,890 --> 01:45:09,420
my specialty was practical effects and

2397
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:12,900
you know real things so

2398
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,880
uh yeah

2399
01:45:19,129 --> 01:45:17,280
it's obvious that skinny Bob is a CGI

2400
01:45:20,689 --> 01:45:19,139
composition there are rigging points on

2401
01:45:23,209 --> 01:45:20,699
the creature's eyelids which are very

2402
01:45:25,250 --> 01:45:23,219
very telling of its true nature you

2403
01:45:29,149 --> 01:45:25,260
could be right I'm not an expert in CGI

2404
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:29,159
I've done some CGI but mostly I was

2405
01:45:35,629 --> 01:45:32,400
doing CGI spaceships and animations and

2406
01:45:37,129 --> 01:45:35,639
things so I'm really not an expert

2407
01:45:39,050 --> 01:45:37,139
um but like all things technology

2408
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,060
interest me so I was always interested

2409
01:45:43,609 --> 01:45:41,280
in digital audio and digital video and

2410
01:45:45,410 --> 01:45:43,619
and digital animation and I've made some

2411
01:45:47,689 --> 01:45:45,420
CGI

2412
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:47,699
um I'm still trying to learn blender and

2413
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:54,770
yes the obvious generic film noise

2414
01:45:59,870 --> 01:45:57,119
filters yeah that was hokey they should

2415
01:46:01,490 --> 01:45:59,880
have left the film noise out yes

2416
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:01,500
if it's a video I'm thinking of Rick

2417
01:46:06,530 --> 01:46:03,119
Baker left and said he could totally

2418
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:06,540
recreate it well yeah nobody has a lot

2419
01:46:09,649 --> 01:46:07,920
of people have said they could but

2420
01:46:10,689 --> 01:46:09,659
nobody's put up

2421
01:46:16,189 --> 01:46:10,699
something

2422
01:46:21,050 --> 01:46:18,709
yes Randy says skinny Bob might have

2423
01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:21,060
been done by special effects uh guy who

2424
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:22,980
did sci-fi shows

2425
01:46:30,169 --> 01:46:28,080
yeah yeah I agree with you so uh we I

2426
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,179
still have some more time to share with

2427
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:33,600
you friends uh this will probably be our

2428
01:46:35,330 --> 01:46:34,500
last

2429
01:46:39,229 --> 01:46:35,340
um

2430
01:46:41,810 --> 01:46:39,239
our last uh live show uh but I have some

2431
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:41,820
announcements to make and uh or last

2432
01:46:45,229 --> 01:46:44,400
live show for the week I should say

2433
01:46:46,970 --> 01:46:45,239
um

2434
01:46:49,010 --> 01:46:46,980
I have some announcements to make and

2435
01:46:51,770 --> 01:46:49,020
we'll take comments and questions from

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01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,780
the live chat I have some more time to

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01:46:56,689 --> 01:46:53,760
share with you so what do you think of

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01:47:00,830 --> 01:46:56,699
uh Mr Randall's opinions on this Dave

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01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:00,840
grush case does this shed major doubt on

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01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:03,060
Mr grush's story

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01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,000
uh or is Mr Randall completely wrong

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01:47:10,010 --> 01:47:08,400
which would kind of mean I'm completely

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01:47:11,930 --> 01:47:10,020
wrong too because I agree with almost

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01:47:16,250 --> 01:47:11,940
everything the guy said

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01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:16,260
uh you know and also we will be doing

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01:47:21,290 --> 01:47:18,000
something from a little more of the

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01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:21,300
believer perspective if I want to get a

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01:47:27,410 --> 01:47:23,760
panel together where we'll be discussing

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01:47:29,450 --> 01:47:27,420
this Dave grush UFO whistleblower and

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01:47:31,250 --> 01:47:29,460
we're gonna have some very skeptically

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01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:31,260
minded people as well as some people

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01:47:34,850 --> 01:47:33,060
that really believe the guy is

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01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:34,860
completely on the level and this is

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01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:37,920
disclosure and disclosures here

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01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:39,840
um I think that would make for a very

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01:47:44,990 --> 01:47:41,580
interesting thing

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01:47:48,649 --> 01:47:45,000
an interesting sort of panel you know to

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01:47:50,810 --> 01:47:48,659
have both the people of both opinions we

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01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,820
get hammered here sometimes we're not

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01:47:55,850 --> 01:47:52,800
balanced enough so I say okay we'll

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01:47:58,010 --> 01:47:55,860
we'll try to be more balanced

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01:47:59,689 --> 01:47:58,020
um so this will probably be the last

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live show for the week but we're doing

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some uh true Seeker special events

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something called Truth Seekers classics

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taking comments and questions from the

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01:53:21,229 --> 01:53:19,080
Brian schill is here and says shout out

2556
01:53:23,410 --> 01:53:21,239
to alien scientist

2557
01:53:26,930 --> 01:53:23,420
yeah I still have to check in with him

2558
01:53:29,149 --> 01:53:26,940
uh but uh I'll I'll probably have more

2559
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:29,159
time from the cabin this weekend and

2560
01:53:32,750 --> 01:53:30,719
those of you who have asked yes the

2561
01:53:35,090 --> 01:53:32,760
bathroom project in the cabin is finally

2562
01:53:37,790 --> 01:53:35,100
done so I'm gonna make a video walk

2563
01:53:39,290 --> 01:53:37,800
through and show the you know the whole

2564
01:53:42,350 --> 01:53:39,300
thing completely finished I can't

2565
01:53:44,930 --> 01:53:42,360
believe it's finally finished uh and we

2566
01:53:47,629 --> 01:53:44,940
thank Chris demarez for kind and

2567
01:53:49,550 --> 01:53:47,639
generous 9.99 for your Martin Willis

2568
01:53:51,709 --> 01:53:49,560
defense fund no I think we're okay he

2569
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,719
sent me an email we're okay but after

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01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:53,520
the broadcast I will send him another

2571
01:54:01,010 --> 01:53:56,159
email and apologize again

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01:54:04,609 --> 01:54:01,020
um listen here's the thing is that

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01:54:06,410 --> 01:54:04,619
okay technically I can do that all I

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01:54:09,290 --> 01:54:06,420
want and and I don't need to ask

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01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:09,300
permission however especially when

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01:54:14,689 --> 01:54:11,580
sharing from another show host in the

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01:54:16,930 --> 01:54:14,699
same genre as you it's it's I should

2578
01:54:19,850 --> 01:54:16,940
have I should have uh sent him a message

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01:54:21,290 --> 01:54:19,860
and said hey uh this is what I'd like to

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01:54:23,930 --> 01:54:21,300
do I hope you're okay with that it would

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01:54:25,790 --> 01:54:23,940
be fair use and we will uh share your

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01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:25,800
channel link and a link to your original

2583
01:54:32,330 --> 01:54:29,520
video most people don't mind so to be

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01:54:35,209 --> 01:54:32,340
very very honest brutally honest I had

2585
01:54:37,729 --> 01:54:35,219
quite a day today and

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01:54:40,609 --> 01:54:37,739
um it just didn't occur to me because I

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01:54:43,370 --> 01:54:40,619
was so busy doing so many things today I

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01:54:45,709 --> 01:54:43,380
should have especially with a some show

2589
01:54:47,990 --> 01:54:45,719
host whose material we've never shared

2590
01:54:50,270 --> 01:54:48,000
here because yeah that could be a

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01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:50,280
copyright claim people can say no I

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01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:52,080
don't want you using it or they can

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01:54:57,770 --> 01:54:54,960
argue that no I don't care it's not fair

2594
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:57,780
use or you know whatever luckily we

2595
01:55:03,050 --> 01:55:00,719
worked it out and uh you know I think

2596
01:55:06,109 --> 01:55:03,060
we're both okay I I'd be happy to have

2597
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:06,119
Mr Wilkes here as a guest because he's a

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01:55:13,250 --> 01:55:09,920
interesting character uh that I've never

2599
01:55:15,890 --> 01:55:13,260
spoken to in person so and you you guys

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01:55:19,250 --> 01:55:15,900
know I'm kind of selfish with that like

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01:55:21,470 --> 01:55:19,260
I could talk to people on the phone or

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01:55:23,450 --> 01:55:21,480
you know by Zoom call but I'd rather

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01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:23,460
just bring them on the show and and then

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01:55:27,530 --> 01:55:25,679
share it with all of you so maybe we'll

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01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:27,540
get to do that I'll I'll send him a

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01:55:32,030 --> 01:55:29,280
message and again the link to his

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01:55:34,189 --> 01:55:32,040
channel is pinned in our live chat and

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01:55:37,790 --> 01:55:34,199
the link to the original video is in the

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01:55:38,930 --> 01:55:37,800
description of our video here he gets a

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01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:38,940
lot of interviews with a lot of

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01:55:43,129 --> 01:55:40,800
interesting people like Ralph Blumenthal

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01:55:44,990 --> 01:55:43,139
recently and Kevin Randall a lot of

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01:55:46,490 --> 01:55:45,000
other bigger names that you may have

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01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:46,500
heard of

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01:55:51,410 --> 01:55:48,900
um so you know uh support people that

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01:55:55,129 --> 01:55:51,420
are making content around this subject

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01:55:57,229 --> 01:55:55,139
that you all apparently like so much

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01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,239
um but I did learn a lesson and thank

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01:56:01,010 --> 01:55:58,800
you for your kindness generosity and

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01:56:03,290 --> 01:56:01,020
support Chris I appreciate it

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01:56:05,930 --> 01:56:03,300
but I did learn a lesson and and here's

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the thing do you know why a lot of

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01:56:12,649 --> 01:56:09,360
people are not as kind as they should be

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01:56:14,570 --> 01:56:12,659
or could be it's because being kind and

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01:56:16,370 --> 01:56:14,580
that would have been kind to reach out

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01:56:17,390 --> 01:56:16,380
to him and say hey uh you know I'm doing

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01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:17,400
this show

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01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:19,199
it's something that I should have done I

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01:56:23,330 --> 01:56:21,119
should have taken the time to be kind

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01:56:26,450 --> 01:56:23,340
that's why people don't do it because

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01:56:28,189 --> 01:56:26,460
it's time and energy that I just did not

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01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:28,199
have today

2633
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:29,760
um you know I kind of been feeling like

2634
01:56:34,669 --> 01:56:32,159
I'm on house arrest here uh because I

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01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:34,679
got two my two sons are home all day and

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01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:37,199
all night now uh and they could be

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01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:38,760
difficult to manage especially my

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01:56:44,090 --> 01:56:42,000
special needs son who's 11 now and had

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01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:44,100
to quite honestly had some meltdowns

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01:56:48,169 --> 01:56:46,260
today over stupid things but he just had

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dental surgery so I know he's not really

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01:56:52,430 --> 01:56:49,500
feeling well

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01:56:54,530 --> 01:56:52,440
and um you know putting out a lot of

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01:56:57,050 --> 01:56:54,540
fires today and that

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01:56:59,390 --> 01:56:57,060
the thought did occur to me as I recall

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01:57:00,830 --> 01:56:59,400
like maybe I should email Mr Willis and

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01:57:03,709 --> 01:57:00,840
let him know that I'd like to do this

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01:57:05,930 --> 01:57:03,719
and then I got sidetracked by I think

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01:57:08,750 --> 01:57:05,940
milk being spilled all over the kitchen

2650
01:57:11,570 --> 01:57:08,760
but one of the boys or something like

2651
01:57:15,229 --> 01:57:11,580
that and and then I was on to other

2652
01:57:19,609 --> 01:57:15,239
things uh I'm cycling through

2653
01:57:21,470 --> 01:57:19,619
I'm cycling through uh our podcasts uh

2654
01:57:24,589 --> 01:57:21,480
situation our audio podcasts we're

2655
01:57:27,890 --> 01:57:24,599
posting reposting a lot of our old

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01:57:30,050 --> 01:57:27,900
episodes cycling many a lot of people

2657
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,060
are asking for more audio podcasts so

2658
01:57:34,370 --> 01:57:32,159
we're putting a bunch of them every day

2659
01:57:35,810 --> 01:57:34,380
now and we'll see how that goes I'm not

2660
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:35,820
sure if we're going to continue with

2661
01:57:39,169 --> 01:57:36,960
that

2662
01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:39,179
um now on to my other announcement is

2663
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:41,760
that we're going to be doing something

2664
01:57:47,209 --> 01:57:45,119
new here on our channel uh truth Seekers

2665
01:57:50,410 --> 01:57:47,219
classics

2666
01:57:54,290 --> 01:57:50,420
um that we have I don't know how many

2667
01:57:56,209 --> 01:57:54,300
live uh broadcasts we have done here

2668
01:57:57,109 --> 01:57:56,219
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

2669
01:58:00,530 --> 01:57:57,119
them

2670
01:58:02,689 --> 01:58:00,540
and many of you will ask me to cover a

2671
01:58:05,810 --> 01:58:02,699
topic we've already covered or or other

2672
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:05,820
situations plus we only broadcast here

2673
01:58:11,149 --> 01:58:08,880
currently I'd like to try to do three

2674
01:58:14,089 --> 01:58:11,159
max four

2675
01:58:15,950 --> 01:58:14,099
live broadcasts per week here which

2676
01:58:18,109 --> 01:58:15,960
leaves other nights where people are

2677
01:58:21,050 --> 01:58:18,119
saying a few people have suggested maybe

2678
01:58:23,870 --> 01:58:21,060
you can replay old episodes of your

2679
01:58:26,330 --> 01:58:23,880
favorites so we're gonna do that but

2680
01:58:29,209 --> 01:58:26,340
then there's also the just

2681
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:29,219
kind of fixing an error that I made

2682
01:58:33,250 --> 01:58:32,159
which was uh we investigated this

2683
01:58:38,169 --> 01:58:33,260
psychic

2684
01:58:40,010 --> 01:58:38,179
healer called Sarah Adams

2685
01:58:41,930 --> 01:58:40,020
and

2686
01:58:45,050 --> 01:58:41,940
I think this is one of the best stories

2687
01:58:48,649 --> 01:58:45,060
I've ever done on this girl Sarah Adams

2688
01:58:51,649 --> 01:58:48,659
who claims to be a psychic and a medium

2689
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:51,659
and she talks to angels and and aliens

2690
01:58:56,030 --> 01:58:53,760
and you know

2691
01:58:58,250 --> 01:58:56,040
higher dimensional interdimensional

2692
01:58:59,950 --> 01:58:58,260
beings and she has the ability to heal

2693
01:59:05,450 --> 01:58:59,960
people

2694
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:05,460
these other things she she can open

2695
01:59:09,770 --> 01:59:07,920
Stargates she's teaching people how to

2696
01:59:12,649 --> 01:59:09,780
open Stargates for fifteen hundred

2697
01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:12,659
dollars she was selling fake med bed

2698
01:59:18,350 --> 01:59:15,679
sections spoiler alert

2699
01:59:20,810 --> 01:59:18,360
for Med beds that didn't even exist in

2700
01:59:22,850 --> 01:59:20,820
the real world it was a zoom call where

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01:59:24,169 --> 01:59:22,860
apparently during the zoom call she's

2702
01:59:26,450 --> 01:59:24,179
going to take people up through a

2703
01:59:29,870 --> 01:59:26,460
Stargate into a Mothership meet the

2704
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:29,880
aliens and get a med bed session

2705
01:59:36,589 --> 01:59:33,360
um but we did a full full investigation

2706
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:36,599
into her and not only that but I sent

2707
01:59:41,930 --> 01:59:39,840
her a fake cancer patient and what do I

2708
01:59:44,270 --> 01:59:41,940
mean I mean that this girl claimed that

2709
01:59:46,910 --> 01:59:44,280
she could diagnose people's illnesses

2710
01:59:49,370 --> 01:59:46,920
even over the phone and she could heal

2711
01:59:51,410 --> 01:59:49,380
people and all these other things so I

2712
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:51,420
got together with an old Mentalist

2713
01:59:56,390 --> 01:59:52,800
friend of mine

2714
02:00:01,490 --> 01:59:59,390
and I sent to her a completely and

2715
02:00:04,669 --> 02:00:01,500
totally fake terminal cancer patient

2716
02:00:06,169 --> 02:00:04,679
just to see if her superpowers would

2717
02:00:08,149 --> 02:00:06,179
work and if she would know that he

2718
02:00:10,189 --> 02:00:08,159
didn't have cancer because if she can

2719
02:00:12,530 --> 02:00:10,199
diagnose people's illnesses over the

2720
02:00:15,290 --> 02:00:12,540
phone she should know if they have

2721
02:00:17,149 --> 02:00:15,300
cancer or not and so we did a complete

2722
02:00:20,750 --> 02:00:17,159
and full investigation into this girl

2723
02:00:22,910 --> 02:00:20,760
Sarah Adams fast forward about a year

2724
02:00:25,669 --> 02:00:22,920
after we started covering her and I did

2725
02:00:27,649 --> 02:00:25,679
a couple of pieces on her scams I'm kind

2726
02:00:29,570 --> 02:00:27,659
of saying they're scams she was selling

2727
02:00:32,750 --> 02:00:29,580
people fake med bed sessions with this

2728
02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:32,760
Pete and Roxy couple from Australia you

2729
02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:36,080
know she was involved with this

2730
02:00:43,129 --> 02:00:39,840
Arcturus raw and his fake med bed that

2731
02:00:46,310 --> 02:00:43,139
was made out of a tanning bed and he

2732
02:00:48,890 --> 02:00:46,320
glued magnets and organite and sand in

2733
02:00:50,930 --> 02:00:48,900
it so somehow it's now a med bed and

2734
02:00:53,149 --> 02:00:50,940
they were going to sell sessions in this

2735
02:00:55,850 --> 02:00:53,159
completely unproven

2736
02:00:58,669 --> 02:00:55,860
medical device that could be dangerous

2737
02:01:00,890 --> 02:00:58,679
it just got glued hundreds and hundreds

2738
02:01:02,629 --> 02:01:00,900
of neodymium magnets inside this thing

2739
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,639
and you would lay in this thing and

2740
02:01:07,010 --> 02:01:04,560
you've got all these neodymium magnets

2741
02:01:09,229 --> 02:01:07,020
all around your brain do you know what

2742
02:01:12,470 --> 02:01:09,239
that could do to a human brain it's very

2743
02:01:14,209 --> 02:01:12,480
dangerous so we did a whole bunch of

2744
02:01:18,290 --> 02:01:14,219
shows on this girl

2745
02:01:20,750 --> 02:01:18,300
and then one day I think by FedEx I got

2746
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,760
a uh a legal threat letter and that may

2747
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:23,040
be the letter that some idiot was saying

2748
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:26,880
came from uh let's see David Wilcock uh

2749
02:01:32,990 --> 02:01:30,480
uh Richard Dolan Corey Goode and

2750
02:01:35,750 --> 02:01:33,000
somebody else Linda Moulton Hal remember

2751
02:01:38,450 --> 02:01:35,760
some slime Bowl show host lied to

2752
02:01:40,250 --> 02:01:38,460
everybody and say I I he got cease and

2753
02:01:43,550 --> 02:01:40,260
desist letters from all these people

2754
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:43,560
Linda Moulton Hal Richard Dolan Jimmy

2755
02:01:49,490 --> 02:01:47,580
church and uh was a David Wilcox he said

2756
02:01:51,470 --> 02:01:49,500
and no those people never sent me a

2757
02:01:53,149 --> 02:01:51,480
legal threat letter but this girl this

2758
02:01:54,890 --> 02:01:53,159
fake psychic did

2759
02:01:57,589 --> 02:01:54,900
and so

2760
02:01:59,149 --> 02:01:57,599
out of an abundance of caution you know

2761
02:02:01,790 --> 02:01:59,159
she threatened to sue me and all this

2762
02:02:04,330 --> 02:02:01,800
stuff if uh you know so Adam of

2763
02:02:06,589 --> 02:02:04,340
abundance of caution I took the videos

2764
02:02:08,149 --> 02:02:06,599
all of them that covered her down I

2765
02:02:09,890 --> 02:02:08,159
think there's 10 of them

2766
02:02:12,890 --> 02:02:09,900
and

2767
02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:12,900
I got extremely busy at that time with

2768
02:02:19,490 --> 02:02:16,080
some other things and so I took the

2769
02:02:22,850 --> 02:02:19,500
threat letter to a real lawyer who

2770
02:02:25,790 --> 02:02:22,860
looked into it and what we found out is

2771
02:02:27,470 --> 02:02:25,800
that the the legal threat letter that

2772
02:02:30,649 --> 02:02:27,480
she sent me that was

2773
02:02:32,750 --> 02:02:30,659
supposedly from a lawyer it wasn't from

2774
02:02:34,910 --> 02:02:32,760
a real lawyer it was from a guy that did

2775
02:02:38,689 --> 02:02:34,920
have a law degree but he wasn't admitted

2776
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:38,699
or he he wasn't able to sue anybody

2777
02:02:43,250 --> 02:02:40,380
because he wasn't a member of any bar

2778
02:02:46,070 --> 02:02:43,260
association or or you know anything in

2779
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,080
the in in the in the United States

2780
02:02:51,649 --> 02:02:48,239
it turns out that this guy was just one

2781
02:02:53,810 --> 02:02:51,659
of her friends so she wanted to Stomp

2782
02:02:56,570 --> 02:02:53,820
all over our Free Speech here and say

2783
02:02:59,209 --> 02:02:56,580
you Stephen can't say that my

2784
02:03:01,370 --> 02:02:59,219
superpowers aren't real or I'm gonna sue

2785
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:01,380
you that's essentially what the letter

2786
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:05,520
said so I like I said I took the videos

2787
02:03:10,910 --> 02:03:08,000
down I

2788
02:03:13,070 --> 02:03:10,920
sought legal counsel and by the way I

2789
02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:13,080
have a real lawyer in everything which

2790
02:03:18,050 --> 02:03:16,320
costs me money you know and it's

2791
02:03:21,229 --> 02:03:18,060
unfortunate that I have to spend money

2792
02:03:24,050 --> 02:03:21,239
for for completely fake threats of

2793
02:03:25,129 --> 02:03:24,060
lawsuits from a fake lawyer but this is

2794
02:03:26,950 --> 02:03:25,139
what happened

2795
02:03:30,109 --> 02:03:26,960
and so

2796
02:03:31,669 --> 02:03:30,119
I after finding this out you know and

2797
02:03:33,530 --> 02:03:31,679
talking to the lawyer and the lawyers

2798
02:03:35,930 --> 02:03:33,540
kind of reviewing things and going well

2799
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:35,940
you know so you just said that her

2800
02:03:41,149 --> 02:03:38,639
superpowers aren't real and she's gonna

2801
02:03:42,950 --> 02:03:41,159
she's calling that slander Stephen and I

2802
02:03:45,050 --> 02:03:42,960
go I know like what what am I supposed

2803
02:03:46,490 --> 02:03:45,060
to do and he said well it's up to you

2804
02:03:48,709 --> 02:03:46,500
you can leave the you can leave the

2805
02:03:51,890 --> 02:03:48,719
videos down or you could put them back

2806
02:03:54,109 --> 02:03:51,900
up and you know let her go to court in

2807
02:03:56,030 --> 02:03:54,119
front of a judge and a jury and prove

2808
02:03:57,770 --> 02:03:56,040
that you're wrong when you say her

2809
02:03:59,390 --> 02:03:57,780
superpowers are fake

2810
02:04:01,850 --> 02:03:59,400
and so

2811
02:04:03,470 --> 02:04:01,860
I meant to put the videos back up it

2812
02:04:07,550 --> 02:04:03,480
kept slipping my mind

2813
02:04:10,250 --> 02:04:07,560
other things going on very busy here I

2814
02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:10,260
never put the videos back up so now

2815
02:04:15,229 --> 02:04:12,179
we're going to correct that error and

2816
02:04:17,629 --> 02:04:15,239
just a message to anybody uh who wants

2817
02:04:21,890 --> 02:04:17,639
to threaten me going forward I have one

2818
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:21,900
of the best lawyers you could have so if

2819
02:04:27,169 --> 02:04:24,239
I have to I don't want to spend money on

2820
02:04:28,129 --> 02:04:27,179
lawyers that's not something but my

2821
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:28,139
point is

2822
02:04:33,290 --> 02:04:30,960
I am not going to be silenced or

2823
02:04:36,709 --> 02:04:33,300
intimidated I'm not taking videos down

2824
02:04:39,350 --> 02:04:36,719
when you claim I slandered you for you

2825
02:04:42,229 --> 02:04:39,360
know having the audacity to test your

2826
02:04:45,050 --> 02:04:42,239
superpowers and by the way we tested our

2827
02:04:48,649 --> 02:04:45,060
superpowers and I have ample evidence

2828
02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:48,659
that she's a fraud so let the chips fall

2829
02:04:52,790 --> 02:04:50,159
where they may

2830
02:04:57,050 --> 02:04:52,800
that was a big error on my part because

2831
02:05:00,109 --> 02:04:57,060
you know once you uh once you sort of

2832
02:05:02,089 --> 02:05:00,119
surrender to somebody who wants to Stomp

2833
02:05:04,070 --> 02:05:02,099
all over your free speech

2834
02:05:05,930 --> 02:05:04,080
other people will think that they can

2835
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:05,940
equally all they have to do is send you

2836
02:05:09,709 --> 02:05:07,679
a letter and threaten make threats and

2837
02:05:11,930 --> 02:05:09,719
you'll take videos down that are

2838
02:05:14,810 --> 02:05:11,940
completely and totally 100 factually

2839
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:14,820
correct and truthful and I'm not doing

2840
02:05:19,550 --> 02:05:18,000
that I'm just not going to do that so in

2841
02:05:21,589 --> 02:05:19,560
order to correct everything we're going

2842
02:05:23,330 --> 02:05:21,599
to put those back and she can do what

2843
02:05:25,189 --> 02:05:23,340
she's going to do

2844
02:05:26,330 --> 02:05:25,199
um but you know again she's gonna have

2845
02:05:28,250 --> 02:05:26,340
to come to the state of Pennsylvania

2846
02:05:30,530 --> 02:05:28,260
she's going to have to prove that I did

2847
02:05:32,990 --> 02:05:30,540
things with malice and forethought and

2848
02:05:35,570 --> 02:05:33,000
that I said things I knew were were not

2849
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:35,580
factually accurate and it's a whole big

2850
02:05:40,370 --> 02:05:37,679
thing one of the most expensive things

2851
02:05:42,589 --> 02:05:40,380
that you could do is to try to you know

2852
02:05:44,689 --> 02:05:42,599
sue somebody for slander or defamation

2853
02:05:47,450 --> 02:05:44,699
good luck with that you know and it

2854
02:05:50,030 --> 02:05:47,460
could take years and you know it's this

2855
02:05:52,010 --> 02:05:50,040
whole thing but but most of me thinks

2856
02:05:54,290 --> 02:05:52,020
that this girl's a fake psychic with a

2857
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,300
fake lawyer uh we're putting the videos

2858
02:06:00,410 --> 02:05:56,639
back and let the chips fall where they

2859
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,169
yes she brags about driving her jaguar

2860
02:06:06,830 --> 02:06:05,520
and Daniel messaged me on Twitter I'm

2861
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:06,840
going to tell you where she got that

2862
02:06:09,470 --> 02:06:08,460
jaguar and you're going to laugh your

2863
02:06:11,570 --> 02:06:09,480
ass off

2864
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:11,580
you're really going to laugh when I tell

2865
02:06:15,250 --> 02:06:13,199
you where she got the Jaguar she didn't

2866
02:06:18,290 --> 02:06:15,260
get it she didn't buy it for herself

2867
02:06:20,149 --> 02:06:18,300
let's just leave it at that or so I hear

2868
02:06:22,729 --> 02:06:20,159
right

2869
02:06:26,330 --> 02:06:22,739
uh no we haven't done that yet either

2870
02:06:28,250 --> 02:06:26,340
that is on my uh list of things to deal

2871
02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:28,260
with and I promise you we'll have an

2872
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:30,480
update on that next week Sedona is cult

2873
02:06:35,870 --> 02:06:32,400
Central yeah well she got run out of

2874
02:06:38,390 --> 02:06:35,880
Sedona or so I hear allegedly

2875
02:06:40,129 --> 02:06:38,400
um that's how much of a of a fake

2876
02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:40,139
psychic she is they don't even want her

2877
02:06:43,850 --> 02:06:41,940
in Sedona apparently

2878
02:06:46,010 --> 02:06:43,860
shout out to True Seeker Steve thank you

2879
02:06:47,629 --> 02:06:46,020
for the truth I've seen a real UFO but I

2880
02:06:49,850 --> 02:06:47,639
don't believe these UFO grifters anymore

2881
02:06:52,490 --> 02:06:49,860
thank you Steve well thank you Brian

2882
02:06:55,430 --> 02:06:52,500
chill and nice to hear from you thank

2883
02:06:58,250 --> 02:06:55,440
you and and yeah listen I had my own

2884
02:07:00,649 --> 02:06:58,260
personal experience that's why I'm here

2885
02:07:02,390 --> 02:07:00,659
but just because you've had an

2886
02:07:04,250 --> 02:07:02,400
experience doesn't mean that you need to

2887
02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:04,260
believe everybody that is claiming

2888
02:07:08,510 --> 02:07:06,239
experiences or everybody that's telling

2889
02:07:10,970 --> 02:07:08,520
you the real truth about the aliens in

2890
02:07:14,149 --> 02:07:10,980
the UFOs because most of them are lying

2891
02:07:16,850 --> 02:07:14,159
scamming grifter con artists and we can

2892
02:07:20,030 --> 02:07:16,860
demonstrate that and we do demonstrate

2893
02:07:24,530 --> 02:07:21,950
who do you think is feeding grush his

2894
02:07:26,570 --> 02:07:24,540
UFO lines for his story well if I had to

2895
02:07:28,310 --> 02:07:26,580
guess I would say the people that we

2896
02:07:31,930 --> 02:07:28,320
know for sure that he's connected to

2897
02:07:35,689 --> 02:07:31,940
Gary Nolan Ross coldthart Lou Elizondo

2898
02:07:38,030 --> 02:07:35,699
uh Eric Davis and others

2899
02:07:41,390 --> 02:07:38,040
the usual cast of characters many of the

2900
02:07:43,790 --> 02:07:41,400
people who brought us the ttsa uh techno

2901
02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:43,800
thing not Russ cold dark but

2902
02:07:49,129 --> 02:07:46,800
um I think that that he is being

2903
02:07:51,109 --> 02:07:49,139
manipulated and I think that

2904
02:07:52,669 --> 02:07:51,119
unfortunately this guy truly believes

2905
02:07:54,890 --> 02:07:52,679
that all this is real

2906
02:07:57,709 --> 02:07:54,900
and until we see the documents and see

2907
02:08:02,050 --> 02:07:57,719
his so-called surf uh

2908
02:08:06,050 --> 02:08:02,060
surf you know until we see his actual

2909
02:08:07,609 --> 02:08:06,060
uh sources you know prove to me that

2910
02:08:09,530 --> 02:08:07,619
it's not the usual cast of characters

2911
02:08:12,189 --> 02:08:09,540
feeding him this stuff let's see the

2912
02:08:15,649 --> 02:08:12,199
sources he won't share the sources right

2913
02:08:18,169 --> 02:08:15,659
loness wisdom fair use is fair use but I

2914
02:08:20,629 --> 02:08:18,179
don't think fair use includes playing

2915
02:08:22,189 --> 02:08:20,639
I don't know what that means playing a

2916
02:08:24,589 --> 02:08:22,199
in

2917
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,599
no what we did is fair use because we

2918
02:08:28,490 --> 02:08:26,639
offered commentary it's a transformative

2919
02:08:29,870 --> 02:08:28,500
work we're educating the public we're

2920
02:08:32,089 --> 02:08:29,880
talking about the video that we're

2921
02:08:33,589 --> 02:08:32,099
sharing what we did is fair use we do it

2922
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,599
here all the time

2923
02:08:38,270 --> 02:08:36,000
I heard Stephen was doing the lato air

2924
02:08:40,129 --> 02:08:38,280
hump no no

2925
02:08:42,290 --> 02:08:40,139
but I will tell you that I had a few

2926
02:08:44,089 --> 02:08:42,300
people message me and say oh my God he's

2927
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:44,099
doing a cambian I go what do you mean

2928
02:08:48,649 --> 02:08:46,800
that's not something I'd ever do and if

2929
02:08:51,169 --> 02:08:48,659
and they said that it looks like

2930
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,179
something you would do right he kind of

2931
02:08:56,270 --> 02:08:52,800
went nuts remember how I used to be so

2932
02:09:00,070 --> 02:08:56,280
angry and animated right prepared for an

2933
02:09:02,750 --> 02:09:00,080
iced coffee tomorrow right yeah

2934
02:09:05,629 --> 02:09:02,760
so comments questions for me please put

2935
02:09:07,089 --> 02:09:05,639
them in all capital letters uh and we've

2936
02:09:10,129 --> 02:09:07,099
already got this one

2937
02:09:11,209 --> 02:09:10,139
uh yeah we're gonna we're gonna we're

2938
02:09:13,609 --> 02:09:11,219
gonna

2939
02:09:16,729 --> 02:09:13,619
have I will have an announcement about

2940
02:09:19,250 --> 02:09:16,739
that next week I'm sorry it took me a

2941
02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:19,260
little longer but we've got the money to

2942
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:21,599
be on that site for a few months we're

2943
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:25,199
gonna see if that if Corey good it can

2944
02:09:32,209 --> 02:09:29,460
make you know his promise that the his

2945
02:09:33,890 --> 02:09:32,219
platform is censorship free and we're

2946
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:33,900
gonna see if that includes when you're

2947
02:09:40,189 --> 02:09:37,199
on his platform be critical of him uh

2948
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,199
that that should be awesome

2949
02:09:43,970 --> 02:09:42,000
she should have claimed James Randy's

2950
02:09:45,830 --> 02:09:43,980
million dollar challenge nobody ever did

2951
02:09:48,410 --> 02:09:45,840
that nobody ever did that and by the way

2952
02:09:50,209 --> 02:09:48,420
I knew and and met James Randy and

2953
02:09:53,450 --> 02:09:50,219
talked to him many times

2954
02:09:54,649 --> 02:09:53,460
did she get lame Tata Made in India or

2955
02:09:57,649 --> 02:09:54,659
the British one I don't know what kind

2956
02:09:59,209 --> 02:09:57,659
of Jaguar the fake psychic girl has uh

2957
02:10:02,390 --> 02:09:59,219
but in any case we're going to be

2958
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:02,400
rebroadcasting those episodes an entire

2959
02:10:08,750 --> 02:10:06,239
story arc like if you want to hear a

2960
02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:08,760
great story of a fake psychic getting

2961
02:10:13,550 --> 02:10:12,239
ripped apart for being a fraud uh I

2962
02:10:15,709 --> 02:10:13,560
think this is one of the best stories

2963
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:15,719
that we've ever done I think there's 10

2964
02:10:21,229 --> 02:10:17,760
videos

2965
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:21,239
um Saturday night this Saturday night at

2966
02:10:26,209 --> 02:10:24,239
9 00 PM eastern time is part one this

2967
02:10:28,910 --> 02:10:26,219
Sunday night at 9 pm eastern time is

2968
02:10:32,570 --> 02:10:28,920
part two and this Monday night at 9 00

2969
02:10:34,669 --> 02:10:32,580
PM eastern time is part three and after

2970
02:10:37,129 --> 02:10:34,679
we finished with the Strange Case of

2971
02:10:38,930 --> 02:10:37,139
Sarah Adams

2972
02:10:41,450 --> 02:10:38,940
um we'll be doing that more we're gonna

2973
02:10:44,510 --> 02:10:41,460
play some replays uh so everybody can

2974
02:10:47,149 --> 02:10:44,520
come and enjoy the live chat and uh some

2975
02:10:48,890 --> 02:10:47,159
of you may be re-experiencing it but to

2976
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:48,900
most of you it's not a rerun because you

2977
02:10:53,990 --> 02:10:51,360
never saw it in the first place right

2978
02:10:55,850 --> 02:10:54,000
Ivana Rios thinks Louise Elizondo is one

2979
02:10:57,470 --> 02:10:55,860
of the people yes absolutely Luis

2980
02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:57,480
Elizondo is one of the people feeding

2981
02:11:03,229 --> 02:11:00,239
this guy's stories I believe that he fed

2982
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:03,239
that story of the of the Italian UFO

2983
02:11:07,850 --> 02:11:06,000
crash to somebody else previously

2984
02:11:10,010 --> 02:11:07,860
she should have claimed James Randy's

2985
02:11:12,109 --> 02:11:10,020
yes we got that one thoughts on

2986
02:11:15,470 --> 02:11:12,119
submarine stupidity well first of all

2987
02:11:17,890 --> 02:11:15,480
it's an incredible tragedy but second of

2988
02:11:21,169 --> 02:11:17,900
all there's a real problem because

2989
02:11:25,370 --> 02:11:21,179
apparently that submarine was only rated

2990
02:11:28,729 --> 02:11:25,380
to go down to 1400 or 14 000 feet I

2991
02:11:30,890 --> 02:11:28,739
think and the Titanic wreck is at forty

2992
02:11:32,510 --> 02:11:30,900
thousand feet so why are you charging

2993
02:11:34,370 --> 02:11:32,520
people two hundred and fifty thousand

2994
02:11:37,550 --> 02:11:34,380
dollars to go

2995
02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:37,560
to a wreck site that you can't even get

2996
02:11:46,430 --> 02:11:41,040
to and also military submarines don't go

2997
02:11:48,589 --> 02:11:46,440
to forty thousand feet I I believe so

2998
02:11:52,430 --> 02:11:48,599
I think it was poorly planned poorly

2999
02:11:55,089 --> 02:11:52,440
executed and stupid of anybody to just

3000
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,099
think they're gonna get in some you know

3001
02:11:59,870 --> 02:11:57,599
Submarine that's not rated to do what

3002
02:12:02,089 --> 02:11:59,880
they're trying to do with it and live

3003
02:12:05,030 --> 02:12:02,099
and uh you know it's kind of sad because

3004
02:12:07,370 --> 02:12:05,040
those people didn't know that the 250

3005
02:12:09,290 --> 02:12:07,380
000 dollars that they paid didn't

3006
02:12:11,570 --> 02:12:09,300
include a round trip ticket and

3007
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,580
unfortunately is it's pretty clear now

3008
02:12:16,070 --> 02:12:13,199
isn't it spooky like they found the

3009
02:12:19,250 --> 02:12:16,080
wreckage and stuff so those people all

3010
02:12:21,649 --> 02:12:19,260
lost their lives unfortunately

3011
02:12:26,089 --> 02:12:24,649
John Martin U2 and UFO and ET

3012
02:12:27,770 --> 02:12:26,099
intelligence how about interviewing

3013
02:12:29,330 --> 02:12:27,780
somebody who actually interacts with UFO

3014
02:12:30,530 --> 02:12:29,340
and eats the intelligence is on a

3015
02:12:32,510 --> 02:12:30,540
regular basis

3016
02:12:34,490 --> 02:12:32,520
I think he's talking about him and and

3017
02:12:36,169 --> 02:12:34,500
John Martin are you a guy that sends me

3018
02:12:37,729 --> 02:12:36,179
the really greedy pictures that I can't

3019
02:12:40,970 --> 02:12:37,739
do anything with or is that somebody

3020
02:12:43,970 --> 02:12:40,980
else I apologize if I'm confusing you

3021
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:43,980
um why don't you email me and send me

3022
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:46,800
some examples of a material that you

3023
02:12:51,169 --> 02:12:48,960
have to share and I will get back to you

3024
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:51,179
later this evening I promise and thank

3025
02:12:54,890 --> 02:12:53,280
you for the question I'm guessing that

3026
02:12:57,050 --> 02:12:54,900
good will blow his stack when he finds

3027
02:12:58,729 --> 02:12:57,060
out who's uploading to his website yeah

3028
02:13:00,109 --> 02:12:58,739
and well that's the thing it took me a

3029
02:13:02,750 --> 02:13:00,119
little while because we have to work out

3030
02:13:05,689 --> 02:13:02,760
how to sort of not make it completely

3031
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:05,699
obvious that it's me so but I found a

3032
02:13:15,109 --> 02:13:13,069
seems money can't buy brains yeah Rich

3033
02:13:17,930 --> 02:13:15,119
fish food

3034
02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:17,940
you couldn't pay me 250k to get into one

3035
02:13:23,089 --> 02:13:19,380
of those things

3036
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:23,099
I went in a in a little one a little uh

3037
02:13:29,209 --> 02:13:26,159
submersible in the Delaware River in

3038
02:13:31,790 --> 02:13:29,219
once uh but I did that

3039
02:13:34,129 --> 02:13:31,800
because it was for sea explorers which

3040
02:13:36,530 --> 02:13:34,139
is like Boy Scouts but boats you know

3041
02:13:39,229 --> 02:13:36,540
and my dad was a Navy guy so he made us

3042
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:39,239
do this it was so dorky Daniel we had to

3043
02:13:42,109 --> 02:13:41,280
dress up in these Navy uniforms and

3044
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:42,119
stuff

3045
02:13:47,209 --> 02:13:44,639
but I got to ride in a submarine and it

3046
02:13:49,970 --> 02:13:47,219
but it only went like 20 20 30 feet down

3047
02:13:52,430 --> 02:13:49,980
but it was interesting

3048
02:13:55,370 --> 02:13:52,440
um it had lights and stuff on it right

3049
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:55,380
you know interesting stuff

3050
02:14:02,209 --> 02:13:58,560
but I wouldn't go try to go to the

3051
02:14:04,430 --> 02:14:02,219
bottom of the ocean and one hell no no

3052
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:04,440
I that's one of my big fears there's two

3053
02:14:10,550 --> 02:14:07,920
ways I don't want to die uh drowning and

3054
02:14:13,129 --> 02:14:10,560
burning to death right those are two

3055
02:14:15,649 --> 02:14:13,139
ways I don't want to die so I try to

3056
02:14:19,669 --> 02:14:15,659
avoid anything that might make that a

3057
02:14:25,850 --> 02:14:22,310
pretty sure they died on descent yeah

3058
02:14:30,050 --> 02:14:25,860
yeah it apparently an hour into their

3059
02:14:32,569 --> 02:14:30,060
Journey it it imploded from pressure and

3060
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:32,579
you know those people should have a

3061
02:14:35,930 --> 02:14:34,079
tremendous lawsuit because somebody

3062
02:14:37,790 --> 02:14:35,940
involved in that company should have

3063
02:14:40,490 --> 02:14:37,800
known that that thing was not gonna make

3064
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,500
it right

3065
02:14:46,069 --> 02:14:42,719
yeah I feel bad for the 19 year old kid

3066
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:49,129
it's 12 point k

3067
02:14:55,470 --> 02:14:52,320
12 500 feet I don't know about that let

3068
02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:55,480
me see uh Titanic wreck that

3069
02:14:59,629 --> 02:14:57,360
[Music]

3070
02:15:00,770 --> 02:14:59,639
and why did that thing implode one hour

3071
02:15:03,350 --> 02:15:00,780
in

3072
02:15:05,689 --> 02:15:03,360
yeah about 12 500 feet I could be wrong

3073
02:15:09,890 --> 02:15:05,699
I saw a meme that said it was 40 000

3074
02:15:20,390 --> 02:15:13,250
uh how deep was the missing Titanic

3075
02:15:25,490 --> 02:15:23,089
so the submersible was supposed to go to

3076
02:15:27,950 --> 02:15:25,500
9 000 feet

3077
02:15:30,229 --> 02:15:27,960
owned by Ocean Gate uh well here I'll

3078
02:15:32,270 --> 02:15:30,239
share this if you guys everybody

3079
02:15:34,010 --> 02:15:32,280
these people wanted me to do a show on

3080
02:15:36,770 --> 02:15:34,020
this but I thought it's not our you know

3081
02:15:40,910 --> 02:15:36,780
like our usual wheelhouse

3082
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:40,920
uh come along with these ads so

3083
02:15:46,609 --> 02:15:43,920
a sperm whale only goes to 7 300 feet

3084
02:15:54,169 --> 02:15:46,619
maximum depth they were going to eight

3085
02:15:58,669 --> 02:15:56,830
it's designed to take people to 13

3086
02:16:01,010 --> 02:15:58,679
123 feet

3087
02:16:03,410 --> 02:16:01,020
what was designed for that but why did

3088
02:16:06,350 --> 02:16:03,420
it implode then uh I don't really

3089
02:16:10,750 --> 02:16:06,360
understand it you know I never knew this

3090
02:16:15,169 --> 02:16:10,760
an octopus can only go down 5000 feet

3091
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:17,990
seven thousand feet

3092
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:21,360
Grand Canyon is 8 000 feet they're going

3093
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:24,239
down eight thousand

3094
02:16:30,169 --> 02:16:27,119
yeah I mean then if it was designed to

3095
02:16:32,089 --> 02:16:30,179
withstand but it didn't look to me like

3096
02:16:35,929 --> 02:16:32,099
it was designed to withstand those kind

3097
02:16:39,530 --> 02:16:35,939
of depths and you know I I really don't

3098
02:16:41,209 --> 02:16:39,540
understand why this tragedy happened

3099
02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:41,219
um

3100
02:16:46,370 --> 02:16:43,679
I'm gonna just Google how deep does a

3101
02:16:48,349 --> 02:16:46,380
nuclear submarine go

3102
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:48,359
and we'll see

3103
02:16:55,790 --> 02:16:51,120
a nuclear submarine can dive to a depth

3104
02:16:57,410 --> 02:16:55,800
of about 300 meters or 12 400 feet

3105
02:16:59,150 --> 02:16:57,420
so you mean to tell me that an

3106
02:17:01,790 --> 02:16:59,160
independent company designed a

3107
02:17:05,150 --> 02:17:01,800
submersible that can go

3108
02:17:07,070 --> 02:17:05,160
up deeper than a nuclear submarine

3109
02:17:08,450 --> 02:17:07,080
but thank you for pointing that out see

3110
02:17:10,969 --> 02:17:08,460
we all learned something we learned

3111
02:17:12,770 --> 02:17:10,979
something well actually this is a

3112
02:17:14,030 --> 02:17:12,780
misnomer because apparently this thing

3113
02:17:15,589 --> 02:17:14,040
was controlled by a PlayStation

3114
02:17:17,870 --> 02:17:15,599
controller but

3115
02:17:21,950 --> 02:17:17,880
somebody on Twitter said that no that's

3116
02:17:23,209 --> 02:17:21,960
very common for for submersibles and and

3117
02:17:26,089 --> 02:17:23,219
other

3118
02:17:27,530 --> 02:17:26,099
vehicles to be controlled by that it

3119
02:17:29,870 --> 02:17:27,540
sounds strange but that's a pretty

3120
02:17:31,790 --> 02:17:29,880
standard control system apparently

3121
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,800
thoughts on Betty and Barney Hill case

3122
02:17:36,530 --> 02:17:33,840
the book by her nephew is very detailed

3123
02:17:38,570 --> 02:17:36,540
yeah I think it's a great case I I was

3124
02:17:41,870 --> 02:17:38,580
always very interested in it I love that

3125
02:17:43,549 --> 02:17:41,880
movie with James Earl Jones and I can't

3126
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,559
remember the name of the female actress

3127
02:17:49,250 --> 02:17:45,599
but she later played Roseanne Barr's

3128
02:17:51,410 --> 02:17:49,260
mother on the television show Roseanne

3129
02:17:54,110 --> 02:17:51,420
um there was a TV movie

3130
02:17:55,610 --> 02:17:54,120
and uh I talked in great length about

3131
02:18:01,370 --> 02:17:55,620
the Betty and Barney Hill case to

3132
02:18:06,589 --> 02:18:04,070
he and I uh disagreed on the star map

3133
02:18:08,990 --> 02:18:06,599
and uh he was never able to really let

3134
02:18:10,730 --> 02:18:09,000
that go that star map evidence was not

3135
02:18:11,629 --> 02:18:10,740
right

3136
02:18:14,209 --> 02:18:11,639
um

3137
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:14,219
but one of the things that always made

3138
02:18:18,830 --> 02:18:16,559
me think the case was prop likely that

3139
02:18:20,690 --> 02:18:18,840
something happened to these people is if

3140
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:20,700
you listen there's audio tapes available

3141
02:18:25,669 --> 02:18:24,000
of those hypnotic regressions and those

3142
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,679
people are screaming and yelling and

3143
02:18:30,530 --> 02:18:27,599
totally terrified while they're reliving

3144
02:18:33,169 --> 02:18:30,540
The Experience so

3145
02:18:35,150 --> 02:18:33,179
yes Martin D true Seekers I have been

3146
02:18:36,589 --> 02:18:35,160
corrected somebody posted a bad meme

3147
02:18:37,730 --> 02:18:36,599
because somebody put a meme on Twitter

3148
02:18:40,610 --> 02:18:37,740
that said

3149
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:40,620
that the Titanic theft was 40 000 feet

3150
02:18:43,849 --> 02:18:42,240
and that the submersible was only

3151
02:18:46,549 --> 02:18:43,859
designed to go

3152
02:18:49,009 --> 02:18:46,559
12 000 feet or something so

3153
02:18:50,810 --> 02:18:49,019
uh yeah

3154
02:18:52,610 --> 02:18:50,820
right on Steve I've studied so much of

3155
02:18:54,589 --> 02:18:52,620
this topic to learn about what I saw

3156
02:18:56,209 --> 02:18:54,599
it's real but now I see the spin

3157
02:18:57,830 --> 02:18:56,219
narrative so many put on this topic

3158
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:57,840
thanks to you and dark journalist and

3159
02:19:01,969 --> 02:19:00,479
Jeremy great well I'm in good company uh

3160
02:19:04,849 --> 02:19:01,979
thank you Brian and thank you for the

3161
02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:04,859
excellent comments I watched the abyss

3162
02:19:11,389 --> 02:19:07,920
and said I'm good with all that ah yeah

3163
02:19:14,450 --> 02:19:11,399
I remember that movie great early CGI

3164
02:19:18,530 --> 02:19:14,460
uh oceans gate claims Titan sub was

3165
02:19:19,730 --> 02:19:18,540
designed to go up to 13 123 feet so they

3166
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,740
should have been able to get right on

3167
02:19:23,570 --> 02:19:21,920
top of the Titanic

3168
02:19:25,490 --> 02:19:23,580
but then

3169
02:19:28,730 --> 02:19:25,500
you know you also think about that's a

3170
02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:28,740
grave site so is it really like should

3171
02:19:34,250 --> 02:19:31,679
you really be taking 250 000 to show

3172
02:19:36,049 --> 02:19:34,260
somebody a mass grave site down at the

3173
02:19:37,849 --> 02:19:36,059
bottom of the ocean I don't know that's

3174
02:19:40,009 --> 02:19:37,859
kind of an ethical judgment call I

3175
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:40,019
wouldn't do it I would let those people

3176
02:19:45,410 --> 02:19:43,200
rest in peace but it is what it is

3177
02:19:48,049 --> 02:19:45,420
yeah probably better than being stuck on

3178
02:19:49,849 --> 02:19:48,059
the bottom waiting to die yeah it must

3179
02:19:51,650 --> 02:19:49,859
have been some kind of a failure of the

3180
02:19:54,050 --> 02:19:51,660
whole system then if it was designed to

3181
02:19:56,270 --> 02:19:54,060
go that deep and it popped one hour in

3182
02:19:58,190 --> 02:19:56,280
and for those unaware if you're going to

3183
02:20:01,070 --> 02:19:58,200
go to those incredible depths you're not

3184
02:20:04,010 --> 02:20:01,080
going to that depth in an hour

3185
02:20:06,530 --> 02:20:04,020
they have to do a slow descent so that

3186
02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:06,540
your body slowly acclimates to the

3187
02:20:11,030 --> 02:20:08,399
pressure I think

3188
02:20:13,070 --> 02:20:11,040
where you get the bends right I don't

3189
02:20:14,690 --> 02:20:13,080
know I used to be into this stuff I used

3190
02:20:18,110 --> 02:20:14,700
to

3191
02:20:20,030 --> 02:20:18,120
snorkel and scuba dive a lot but after

3192
02:20:21,950 --> 02:20:20,040
the brain aneurysm it's not recommended

3193
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:21,960
that I scuba dive anymore because of the

3194
02:20:29,870 --> 02:20:25,680
pressure so I haven't scuba dived my

3195
02:20:32,810 --> 02:20:29,880
wife and I still snorkel though a lot uh

3196
02:20:35,690 --> 02:20:32,820
off of coral reefs in Florida usually a

3197
02:20:37,969 --> 02:20:35,700
place called Singer Island and Peanut

3198
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:37,979
Island are two favorite places in

3199
02:20:44,330 --> 02:20:40,319
Florida Singer Island is right off the

3200
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:44,340
coast of West Palm Beach and uh Peanut

3201
02:20:47,450 --> 02:20:45,840
Island is not far from there you can

3202
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,460
take a ferry and get over there and

3203
02:20:51,170 --> 02:20:49,680
there's these huge coral reefs just full

3204
02:20:53,270 --> 02:20:51,180
of fish so you don't have to go real

3205
02:20:55,849 --> 02:20:53,280
deep

3206
02:20:58,670 --> 02:20:55,859
oh apparently the glass Dome was only

3207
02:21:01,010 --> 02:20:58,680
rated for 1300 feet

3208
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,020
that could have been why the thing blew

3209
02:21:05,570 --> 02:21:03,600
up then how could they do that why would

3210
02:21:07,610 --> 02:21:05,580
they put a glass dome in that thing

3211
02:21:10,670 --> 02:21:07,620
that's only rated for 1300 feet if

3212
02:21:14,630 --> 02:21:10,680
you're going to go down to 14 000 feet

3213
02:21:16,790 --> 02:21:14,640
or 13 000 feet or 12th or even yeah you

3214
02:21:18,590 --> 02:21:16,800
know two thousand feet you can't go

3215
02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:18,600
beyond

3216
02:21:24,170 --> 02:21:20,160
yeah

3217
02:21:25,849 --> 02:21:24,180
they only tighten 17 of the 18 bolts of

3218
02:21:28,370 --> 02:21:25,859
the Dome yeah I'm sure we're going to be

3219
02:21:29,630 --> 02:21:28,380
hearing a lot more about this story

3220
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:29,640
um

3221
02:21:34,610 --> 02:21:31,920
and it's not going to be good for the

3222
02:21:36,530 --> 02:21:34,620
people there's gonna obviously this is

3223
02:21:39,290 --> 02:21:36,540
human error obviously there's an awful

3224
02:21:41,870 --> 02:21:39,300
lot of negligence going on right

3225
02:21:44,750 --> 02:21:41,880
and using building steel as ballast

3226
02:21:47,090 --> 02:21:44,760
sounds like it was a right bodge job

3227
02:21:49,070 --> 02:21:47,100
yeah and it's a tragedy for those people

3228
02:21:51,230 --> 02:21:49,080
who lost their lives I feel terrible for

3229
02:21:53,150 --> 02:21:51,240
their families I'm struck by the

3230
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:53,160
similarity of the Titanic disaster

3231
02:21:57,650 --> 02:21:54,960
itself where the captain was repeatedly

3232
02:21:59,450 --> 02:21:57,660
warned without ice about ice out of the

3233
02:22:02,630 --> 02:21:59,460
ship and he steamed it Full Speed Ahead

3234
02:22:03,950 --> 02:22:02,640
into an ice field James Cameron yeah

3235
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:03,960
yeah

3236
02:22:08,210 --> 02:22:06,000
I think that they were

3237
02:22:09,889 --> 02:22:08,220
I maybe I'm mishearing and I've been

3238
02:22:11,870 --> 02:22:09,899
reading some articles I think that

3239
02:22:13,250 --> 02:22:11,880
people try to warn them that that thing

3240
02:22:14,750 --> 02:22:13,260
couldn't handle what they were trying to

3241
02:22:16,309 --> 02:22:14,760
do with it but they went ahead with it

3242
02:22:18,770 --> 02:22:16,319
anyway

3243
02:22:20,630 --> 02:22:18,780
Dr Ballard did a great job documenting

3244
02:22:23,389 --> 02:22:20,640
the whole wreck site y'all have to check

3245
02:22:27,290 --> 02:22:23,399
that out interesting story the sub is

3246
02:22:30,290 --> 02:22:27,300
assembled correct with no faulty uh

3247
02:22:33,110 --> 02:22:30,300
ours was safe I don't know

3248
02:22:35,150 --> 02:22:33,120
they lost contact at 1300 meters after

3249
02:22:37,370 --> 02:22:35,160
the crew signal default and began to

3250
02:22:39,170 --> 02:22:37,380
ascend ooh

3251
02:22:41,870 --> 02:22:39,180
maybe they should have had like a line

3252
02:22:43,429 --> 02:22:41,880
attached to it or I don't know I would I

3253
02:22:44,929 --> 02:22:43,439
would never have gone down in that thing

3254
02:22:46,969 --> 02:22:44,939
the guy who walked away because of

3255
02:22:50,690 --> 02:22:46,979
safety concerns must feel Touched by an

3256
02:22:52,910 --> 02:22:50,700
Angel yeah I heard that one guy decided

3257
02:22:56,570 --> 02:22:52,920
not to go DJ 808 right at the last

3258
02:22:58,429 --> 02:22:56,580
minute and he cited safety concerns

3259
02:22:59,809 --> 02:22:58,439
feel no sympathy for them well come on

3260
02:23:02,929 --> 02:22:59,819
they're human beings seems like having

3261
02:23:05,809 --> 02:23:02,939
an elt would be a good idea yeah

3262
02:23:08,389 --> 02:23:05,819
the black and white video of a alien in

3263
02:23:09,650 --> 02:23:08,399
3D I can tell by the movements I don't

3264
02:23:12,530 --> 02:23:09,660
know what that is

3265
02:23:14,270 --> 02:23:12,540
the ballast usually isn't critical well

3266
02:23:16,250 --> 02:23:14,280
maybe Moody Mongol is here says about

3267
02:23:17,570 --> 02:23:16,260
the pressure by the Titanic wreck it's

3268
02:23:19,849 --> 02:23:17,580
equivalent to the weight of the Empire

3269
02:23:21,950 --> 02:23:19,859
State Building on each and every inch of

3270
02:23:24,349 --> 02:23:21,960
the sub yeah that's an awful lot of

3271
02:23:26,570 --> 02:23:24,359
pressure uh I would have never went in

3272
02:23:27,469 --> 02:23:26,580
that thing I would have never went in

3273
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:27,479
that thing

3274
02:23:32,270 --> 02:23:30,479
oh he tweeted yeah a guy is lucky if he

3275
02:23:34,490 --> 02:23:32,280
walked away the Titanic will be gone in

3276
02:23:36,290 --> 02:23:34,500
20 years based on decomposition it is a

3277
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:36,300
site that should be respected

3278
02:23:41,929 --> 02:23:39,600
yeah it's unfortunate uh the line would

3279
02:23:44,570 --> 02:23:41,939
uh way too much 12 000 feet of Steel

3280
02:23:46,190 --> 02:23:44,580
cable is a lot of weight yeah could be

3281
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:46,200
yeah

3282
02:23:54,110 --> 02:23:51,120
tragedy though I feel terrible for the

3283
02:23:56,330 --> 02:23:54,120
families of those people and uh you know

3284
02:23:59,150 --> 02:23:56,340
shame on the people that didn't do their

3285
02:24:01,550 --> 02:23:59,160
due diligence before offering people a

3286
02:24:06,889 --> 02:24:01,560
ride in their submarine like if you're

3287
02:24:10,010 --> 02:24:07,910
um

3288
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:10,020
I don't know I just think it's

3289
02:24:14,929 --> 02:24:12,720
incredibly dangerous to go to that depth

3290
02:24:17,150 --> 02:24:14,939
that's why nuclear submarines don't go

3291
02:24:19,250 --> 02:24:17,160
that deep right nuclear submarines don't

3292
02:24:21,050 --> 02:24:19,260
even go as deep as they were attempting

3293
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:21,060
and look how those things are built and

3294
02:24:26,090 --> 02:24:23,280
constructed right

3295
02:24:28,010 --> 02:24:26,100
Stephen uh I'm not far from your

3296
02:24:30,770 --> 02:24:28,020
favorite snorkeling spot in Florida oh

3297
02:24:33,349 --> 02:24:30,780
that's interesting West Palm Beach uh is

3298
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:33,359
not really our favorite singer island is

3299
02:24:37,370 --> 02:24:35,520
because West Palm Beach is like very

3300
02:24:40,429 --> 02:24:37,380
commercial and busy and there's all

3301
02:24:41,870 --> 02:24:40,439
these uh like designer stores that we

3302
02:24:44,510 --> 02:24:41,880
care nothing about there's a little

3303
02:24:46,670 --> 02:24:44,520
island off of the West Palm Beach called

3304
02:24:47,330 --> 02:24:46,680
Singer Island

3305
02:24:50,809 --> 02:24:47,340
um

3306
02:24:53,750 --> 02:24:50,819
it's my idea of paradise white sand Blue

3307
02:24:55,849 --> 02:24:53,760
Waters warm water coral reefs what more

3308
02:24:57,710 --> 02:24:55,859
can he ask for at last time we stayed

3309
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:57,720
there and by the way we're going to be

3310
02:25:01,790 --> 02:25:00,000
going back soon I think we haven't been

3311
02:25:02,570 --> 02:25:01,800
there in years

3312
02:25:04,550 --> 02:25:02,580
um

3313
02:25:07,070 --> 02:25:04,560
the last time we stayed there we stayed

3314
02:25:10,250 --> 02:25:07,080
in a Hilton and got upgraded to this

3315
02:25:13,790 --> 02:25:10,260
huge wonderful Suite because there was a

3316
02:25:15,410 --> 02:25:13,800
hurricane or something uh or no yeah

3317
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:15,420
there was supposed

3318
02:25:20,570 --> 02:25:18,240
there was a close call of a hurricane

3319
02:25:22,370 --> 02:25:20,580
and we decided to go anyway

3320
02:25:24,110 --> 02:25:22,380
everybody else must have canceled their

3321
02:25:26,809 --> 02:25:24,120
vacation plans we got there the whole

3322
02:25:29,330 --> 02:25:26,819
hotel was empty so we got an upgrade to

3323
02:25:31,730 --> 02:25:29,340
a better suite and uh it was beautiful

3324
02:25:32,630 --> 02:25:31,740
we had a great time

3325
02:25:35,330 --> 02:25:32,640
um

3326
02:25:36,710 --> 02:25:35,340
and we'll we'll be going back there soon

3327
02:25:40,130 --> 02:25:36,720
but I think the next time we're in

3328
02:25:42,050 --> 02:25:40,140
Florida Patty it'll be for Disneyland

3329
02:25:44,450 --> 02:25:42,060
but I'm hopeful we can go to Disneyland

3330
02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:44,460
for three or four days and then go to

3331
02:25:49,250 --> 02:25:46,800
Singer Island for three or four days

3332
02:25:52,010 --> 02:25:49,260
uh we'll see how that shakes out though

3333
02:25:54,530 --> 02:25:52,020
you never know right

3334
02:25:55,790 --> 02:25:54,540
crypto Alchemist says it is true prayers

3335
02:25:57,770 --> 02:25:55,800
are with the lost souls and their

3336
02:26:00,349 --> 02:25:57,780
families of those lost yeah it's pretty

3337
02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,359
big tragedy

3338
02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:02,399
they don't respect pharaohs so why

3339
02:26:06,590 --> 02:26:04,319
Titanic passengers yeah you're right the

3340
02:26:09,290 --> 02:26:06,600
ship is being eaten by bacteria

3341
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:09,300
that can eat the iron from the hull I

3342
02:26:13,130 --> 02:26:11,040
never heard that before my brother's

3343
02:26:13,849 --> 02:26:13,140
really big on the Titanic

3344
02:26:15,710 --> 02:26:13,859
um

3345
02:26:19,250 --> 02:26:15,720
I'd be interested to see what he thinks

3346
02:26:21,950 --> 02:26:19,260
of this submarine disaster

3347
02:26:24,429 --> 02:26:21,960
I haven't spoke to him in some time uh

3348
02:26:27,650 --> 02:26:24,439
the next thing we'll we will here's

3349
02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:27,660
sabotage speculation soon could be Chris

3350
02:26:31,610 --> 02:26:29,520
Johansen if you're stupid enough to get

3351
02:26:34,610 --> 02:26:31,620
into that thing you get what you get

3352
02:26:37,210 --> 02:26:34,620
that's why uh no sympathy I feel the

3353
02:26:39,830 --> 02:26:37,220
same way for the Everest climbers

3354
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:39,840
you get effed up surgeon right for being

3355
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:42,960
an idiot yeah I guess but you know they

3356
02:26:47,570 --> 02:26:45,359
didn't sign up to be you know murdered

3357
02:26:51,710 --> 02:26:47,580
at Sea you know I wonder what would

3358
02:26:55,610 --> 02:26:53,330
and I am starting the first commercial

3359
02:26:59,330 --> 02:26:55,620
Barrel over Niagara tour 100K a barrel

3360
02:27:01,610 --> 02:26:59,340
top of the line fiber yeah

3361
02:27:03,770 --> 02:27:01,620
they had seven rudimentary ways to get

3362
02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,780
back to the surface none of it matter as

3363
02:27:07,910 --> 02:27:05,520
the sub's design was the most important

3364
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:07,920
flaw dead in one one hundredth of a

3365
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,840
second faster than nerves talked to the

3366
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:11,520
brain well at least they didn't see it

3367
02:27:17,510 --> 02:27:15,359
coming there so you know uh that's good

3368
02:27:19,250 --> 02:27:17,520
you know that probably just were dead

3369
02:27:22,490 --> 02:27:19,260
instantly and didn't even feel anything

3370
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:22,500
or let's hope so it's just a tragedy

3371
02:27:28,250 --> 02:27:25,920
yeah it's you know I I feel terrible for

3372
02:27:31,490 --> 02:27:28,260
those people they had families but then

3373
02:27:34,250 --> 02:27:31,500
did anybody hear that one guy's stepson

3374
02:27:36,830 --> 02:27:34,260
was asking like an only fans model this

3375
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:36,840
to hang out with them for a half hour or

3376
02:27:41,690 --> 02:27:38,640
something or sit on his lap for a half

3377
02:27:44,210 --> 02:27:41,700
hour like dude you're gonna use that to

3378
02:27:48,010 --> 02:27:44,220
the death of your stepdad to try to hook

3379
02:27:53,150 --> 02:27:50,870
that's the world we live in though

3380
02:27:55,309 --> 02:27:53,160
in our Discord there's a link to info

3381
02:27:56,990 --> 02:27:55,319
from the nuke sub T expert that talks

3382
02:27:58,849 --> 02:27:57,000
about what happens to the human body at

3383
02:28:02,990 --> 02:27:58,859
that depth and then I don't want to know

3384
02:28:05,270 --> 02:28:03,000
but thanks for sharing their B Baker

3385
02:28:07,490 --> 02:28:05,280
uh the 19 year old was according to his

3386
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:07,500
mother very apprehensive he only went to

3387
02:28:12,410 --> 02:28:09,600
police his father oh that's terrible

3388
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:12,420
kid's only 19 years old lost his life it

3389
02:28:17,210 --> 02:28:14,640
was carbon fiber shell over a titanium

3390
02:28:19,370 --> 02:28:17,220
Hall rather horrifyingly I discovered

3391
02:28:22,670 --> 02:28:19,380
they would have been able to hear

3392
02:28:24,349 --> 02:28:22,680
the carbon delaminate first oh well

3393
02:28:26,330 --> 02:28:24,359
that's terrible

3394
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:26,340
didn't know you had a Discord yes we do

3395
02:28:30,110 --> 02:28:28,560
come and join it come and join the

3396
02:28:32,570 --> 02:28:30,120
Discord also I want to remind everybody

3397
02:28:36,050 --> 02:28:32,580
to follow me on Twitter it's at Stephen

3398
02:28:38,570 --> 02:28:36,060
cambian uh Twitter is the best place I

3399
02:28:39,950 --> 02:28:38,580
announce all the shows you'll know in

3400
02:28:41,690 --> 02:28:39,960
advance what's coming when we have

3401
02:28:45,410 --> 02:28:41,700
special events I start promoting them

3402
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:45,420
before the events on Twitter and our

3403
02:28:50,330 --> 02:28:47,040
next special event will be us running

3404
02:28:55,190 --> 02:28:50,340
these uh true Seekers Classics which is

3405
02:28:57,170 --> 02:28:55,200
this investigation into a psychic healer

3406
02:28:58,849 --> 02:28:57,180
and uh I'm telling you I think that was

3407
02:29:01,250 --> 02:28:58,859
one of my best cases we really

3408
02:29:02,870 --> 02:29:01,260
investigated her we got a great gotcha

3409
02:29:05,389 --> 02:29:02,880
moment because we sent her a fake cancer

3410
02:29:07,309 --> 02:29:05,399
patient and by the way she was supposed

3411
02:29:09,770 --> 02:29:07,319
to come and do an interview but after we

3412
02:29:11,630 --> 02:29:09,780
sent her the fake cancer patient she

3413
02:29:13,190 --> 02:29:11,640
started getting cold feet and she didn't

3414
02:29:16,429 --> 02:29:13,200
want to do the interview we did

3415
02:29:19,010 --> 02:29:16,439
interview her manager though a guy named

3416
02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:19,020
to gender I think

3417
02:29:23,809 --> 02:29:21,840
and uh so anyway the whole story arc is

3418
02:29:26,929 --> 02:29:23,819
going to play out on our Channel again I

3419
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:26,939
think it's a great story and if you you

3420
02:29:31,610 --> 02:29:29,040
know it's a great story about somebody

3421
02:29:34,190 --> 02:29:31,620
investigating and busting a completely

3422
02:29:36,830 --> 02:29:34,200
and totally fake psychic fraud

3423
02:29:38,450 --> 02:29:36,840
uh which is one of the things we do here

3424
02:29:40,190 --> 02:29:38,460
there were sensors for the hall and

3425
02:29:41,630 --> 02:29:40,200
James Cameron pointed out why have the

3426
02:29:44,270 --> 02:29:41,640
sensors when there's nothing you'll be

3427
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:44,280
able to do if they go off oh

3428
02:29:47,570 --> 02:29:46,080
at least they ended quickly instead of

3429
02:29:49,610 --> 02:29:47,580
left for days in the dark cold only

3430
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:49,620
suffocate after several days of living

3431
02:29:55,010 --> 02:29:52,800
in horror and fear yeah that's terrible

3432
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:55,020
can't believe they would debate

3433
02:30:01,450 --> 02:29:57,840
from what is proven to work yeah and

3434
02:30:06,710 --> 02:30:03,590
130.50 bar

3435
02:30:08,870 --> 02:30:06,720
squishy okay

3436
02:30:10,849 --> 02:30:08,880
fascinating story there's a guy who

3437
02:30:15,650 --> 02:30:10,859
wrote a book on it

3438
02:30:19,790 --> 02:30:17,570
MK Ultra Prime is here and thanks for

3439
02:30:22,010 --> 02:30:19,800
being a member says Mr Ian yeah there

3440
02:30:24,349 --> 02:30:22,020
were sensors for the whole

3441
02:30:25,490 --> 02:30:24,359
why have the sensors yeah thanks for

3442
02:30:27,710 --> 02:30:25,500
being a member

3443
02:30:29,450 --> 02:30:27,720
there is a Titanic conspiracy theory

3444
02:30:31,309 --> 02:30:29,460
most people don't know they built two

3445
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:31,319
and one wrecked and they switched the

3446
02:30:35,330 --> 02:30:33,120
names of the ship and crashed the one

3447
02:30:37,910 --> 02:30:35,340
that was wrecked and JP Morgan canceled

3448
02:30:40,190 --> 02:30:37,920
his ticket I have her that JP Morgan

3449
02:30:43,130 --> 02:30:40,200
canceled his ticket and a bunch of rich

3450
02:30:45,230 --> 02:30:43,140
people got off of that thing before the

3451
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:45,240
disaster happened at the very last stop

3452
02:30:48,710 --> 02:30:47,760
on land before they continued the

3453
02:30:50,870 --> 02:30:48,720
journey

3454
02:30:55,730 --> 02:30:50,880
uh

3455
02:30:57,349 --> 02:30:55,740
humans can perceive so they had no idea

3456
02:31:00,110 --> 02:30:57,359
well

3457
02:31:02,809 --> 02:31:00,120
yeah yeah that the whole thing is a

3458
02:31:05,389 --> 02:31:02,819
tragedy uh you know I I my heart goes

3459
02:31:06,590 --> 02:31:05,399
out to the families of victims and to

3460
02:31:10,610 --> 02:31:06,600
the victims

3461
02:31:13,490 --> 02:31:10,620
um you know being adventurous is risky I

3462
02:31:15,230 --> 02:31:13,500
can tell you that myself you know

3463
02:31:19,130 --> 02:31:15,240
um

3464
02:31:21,530 --> 02:31:19,140
you you can be adventurous certainly if

3465
02:31:23,690 --> 02:31:21,540
that would have worked that would be an

3466
02:31:25,910 --> 02:31:23,700
adventure of a lifetime like I went down

3467
02:31:28,130 --> 02:31:25,920
and I saw the wreck of the Titanic

3468
02:31:29,870 --> 02:31:28,140
but it's you're gonna take risk and

3469
02:31:31,969 --> 02:31:29,880
somebody mentioned climbing Mount

3470
02:31:33,410 --> 02:31:31,979
Everest so many people die trying to

3471
02:31:35,809 --> 02:31:33,420
climb Mount Everest

3472
02:31:37,550 --> 02:31:35,819
that it's incredibly dangerous it would

3473
02:31:40,550 --> 02:31:37,560
be the adventure of a lifetime but again

3474
02:31:42,830 --> 02:31:40,560
it's incredibly dangerous so as for me

3475
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:42,840
I've got a beautiful wife and two

3476
02:31:48,110 --> 02:31:45,600
beautiful children I I I'm not taking

3477
02:31:49,070 --> 02:31:48,120
major risks you know

3478
02:31:51,410 --> 02:31:49,080
um

3479
02:31:54,349 --> 02:31:51,420
still think life's an adventure but I'm

3480
02:31:56,590 --> 02:31:54,359
not taking I'm not personally taking any

3481
02:31:59,450 --> 02:31:56,600
Adventures that may end in death

3482
02:32:02,210 --> 02:31:59,460
premature death right

3483
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:02,220
I would prefer to be here for my

3484
02:32:08,510 --> 02:32:06,240
children growing up so I will pass on

3485
02:32:11,210 --> 02:32:08,520
the uh on the

3486
02:32:12,590 --> 02:32:11,220
high risk Adventures you know not long

3487
02:32:14,210 --> 02:32:12,600
ago some friends of mine were going

3488
02:32:17,770 --> 02:32:14,220
skydiving and wanted me to go I'm like

3489
02:32:20,270 --> 02:32:17,780
no I'm good but yeah I'm good

3490
02:32:23,030 --> 02:32:20,280
and besides they were doing that where

3491
02:32:25,309 --> 02:32:23,040
they strapped some they strap it as some

3492
02:32:27,290 --> 02:32:25,319
instructor dude and and I was like no I

3493
02:32:30,050 --> 02:32:27,300
don't I don't want to do it like that

3494
02:32:31,610 --> 02:32:30,060
you know no

3495
02:32:33,230 --> 02:32:31,620
um and besides there is something crazy

3496
02:32:35,990 --> 02:32:33,240
right about jumping out of a perfectly

3497
02:32:39,250 --> 02:32:36,000
good airplane uh I'll stay here you guys

3498
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:39,260
have a good time right

3499
02:32:48,770 --> 02:32:46,670
it would it would take the airplane

3500
02:32:49,730 --> 02:32:48,780
crashing for me to want to jump out of

3501
02:32:51,950 --> 02:32:49,740
an airplane

3502
02:32:54,349 --> 02:32:51,960
you know like engine failure and you've

3503
02:32:56,690 --> 02:32:54,359
got five minutes to decide to jump out

3504
02:32:59,929 --> 02:32:56,700
or not then if I had a parachute for

3505
02:33:01,670 --> 02:32:59,939
sure I would but uh if the plane was in

3506
02:33:04,570 --> 02:33:01,680
perfectly good condition and the engines

3507
02:33:07,309 --> 02:33:04,580
were fine I don't think so

3508
02:33:08,570 --> 02:33:07,319
but I I felt differently in my younger

3509
02:33:11,630 --> 02:33:08,580
years of course

3510
02:33:13,010 --> 02:33:11,640
so we have done our due diligence for

3511
02:33:15,050 --> 02:33:13,020
tonight friends we've done our due

3512
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:15,060
diligence for the week

3513
02:33:20,510 --> 02:33:18,000
we'll be back Saturday night at 9 00 PM

3514
02:33:22,969 --> 02:33:20,520
Eastern with this premiere of these new

3515
02:33:24,950 --> 02:33:22,979
truth Seekers Classics many of you most

3516
02:33:26,809 --> 02:33:24,960
of you haven't seen those shows so

3517
02:33:28,910 --> 02:33:26,819
they're new to you uh and I hope you'll

3518
02:33:30,889 --> 02:33:28,920
be here I'll be at the cabin but I'll be

3519
02:33:34,190 --> 02:33:30,899
in the live chat from the cabin tomorrow

3520
02:33:36,830 --> 02:33:34,200
night 9 p.m Eastern Standard Time hope

3521
02:33:39,410 --> 02:33:36,840
you'll be with us so that's all we got

3522
02:33:41,330 --> 02:33:39,420
for you friends until next time my name

3523
02:33:42,330 --> 02:33:41,340
is Stephen cambian good night and God

3524
02:34:14,170 --> 02:33:42,340
bless all of you

3525
02:34:14,180 --> 02:34:19,130
thank you

3526
02:34:35,550 --> 02:34:33,590
[Music]

3527
02:35:03,130 --> 02:34:35,560
foreign

3528
02:36:02,809 --> 02:35:07,550
[Music]

3529
02:36:07,730 --> 02:36:02,819
[Applause]

3530
02:36:58,809 --> 02:36:14,190
[Music]